From: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
kernel@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] tty/sysrq: Add alternative SysRq key
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 15:06:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bec3ea81-4084-02ab-d26d-7215296cf2ee@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YYUxNaDG0DquQvke@kroah.com>
Hi Greg,
W dniu 05.11.2021 o 14:27, Greg Kroah-Hartman pisze:
> On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 02:01:23PM +0100, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> W dniu 04.11.2021 o 15:17, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz pisze:
>>> Hi Maciej,
>>>
>>> W dniu 04.11.2021 o 14:13, Maciej W. Rozycki pisze:
>>>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The reason for this is with their more recent laptops Lenovo in their
>>>>> infinite wisdom have placed the <PrintScreen> key (which in a traditional
>>>>> PS/2-keyboard manner produces <SysRq> when combined with <Alt>) in their
>>>>> keyboards between the right <Alt> and <Ctrl> keys. With thumbs not being
>>>>> as accurate as other fingers (and the overall misdesign of the keyboard
>>>>> and touchpad interface) you can imagine how often I have inadvertently hit
>>>>> <SysRq> combined with a letter key, wreaking havoc to my system (and of
>>>>> course I want to keep the key enabled for times when I do need it).
>>>>
>>>> On second thoughts this can be disabled with `setkeycodes 54 0' once we
>>>> do have an alternative combination available.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't `setkeycodes` affect only one keyboard? What if there are more
>>> keyboards connected to a machine?
>>>
>>> From drivers/tty/vt/keyboard.c:
>>>
>>> /*
>>> * Translation of scancodes to keycodes. We set them on only the first
>>> * keyboard in the list that accepts the scancode and keycode.
>>> * Explanation for not choosing the first attached keyboard anymore:
>>> * USB keyboards for example have two event devices: one for all "normal"
>>> * keys and one for extra function keys (like "volume up", "make coffee",
>>> * etc.). So this means that scancodes for the extra function keys won't
>>> * be valid for the first event device, but will be for the second.
>>> */
>>>
>>
>> My second thoughts: if we run `setkeycodes` to map, say, F10 as SysRq,
>> don't we lose F10?
>
> The fact that this patch adds a "new" sysrq key no matter what is a
> non-starter, please think through the consequences of such a change...
>
I wouldn't say this RFC adds a "new" sysrq no matter what. It does so only
when the input device (keyboard) does _not_ have SysRq key at all. So I would
say that this patch adds a replacement SysRq key if the SysRq key proper is
_physically_ absent. Which seems not such a bad thing to me. The problem I'm
trying to solve is exactly this: what to use as SysRq if there's no SysRq?
Andrzej
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-05 14:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-03 15:54 Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2021-11-03 16:19 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-11-04 8:44 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2021-11-04 9:34 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2021-11-04 9:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-04 12:01 ` Pavel Machek
2021-11-04 12:21 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2021-11-04 13:07 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-11-04 13:13 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-11-04 14:17 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2021-11-05 13:01 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2021-11-05 13:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-05 14:06 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz [this message]
2021-11-15 14:48 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2021-11-15 15:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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