From: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] x86,kvm: Add a kernel parameter to disable PV spinlock
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 08:57:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfb70a6a-a280-99a5-3282-af00cf6483ed@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0869e8a5-4abd-8f7f-0135-aab3e72e2d01@suse.com>
On 09/05/2017 08:28 AM, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 05/09/17 00:21, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Sep 2017, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>
>>> For testing its trivial to hack your kernel and I don't feel this is
>>> something an Admin can make reasonable decisions about.
>>>
>>> So why? In general less knobs is better.
>> +1.
>>
>> Also, note how b8fa70b51aa (xen, pvticketlocks: Add xen_nopvspin parameter
>> to disable xen pv ticketlocks) has no justification as to why its wanted
>> in the first place. The only thing I could find was from 15a3eac0784
>> (xen/spinlock: Document the xen_nopvspin parameter):
>>
>> "Useful for diagnosing issues and comparing benchmarks in over-commit
>> CPU scenarios."
> Hmm, I think I should clarify the Xen knob, as I was the one requesting
> it:
>
> In my previous employment we had a configuration where dom0 ran
> exclusively on a dedicated set of physical cpus. We experienced
> scalability problems when doing I/O performance tests: with a decent
> number of dom0 cpus we achieved throughput of 700 MB/s with only 20%
> cpu load in dom0. A higher dom0 cpu count let the throughput drop to
> about 150 MB/s and cpu load was up to 100%. Reason was the additional
> load due to hypervisor interactions on a high frequency lock.
>
> So in special configurations at least for Xen the knob is useful for
> production environment.
It may be that the original patch was just to keep consistency between
Xen and KVM, and also only for testing purposes.
But we find a case when a customer of ours is running some workloads
with 1<->1 mapping between physical cores and virtual cores, and we
realized that with the pv spinlocks disabled there is a 4-5% of
performance gain.
A perf analysis showed that the application was very lock intensive with
a lot of time spent in __raw_callee_save___pv_queued_spin_unlock.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-05 6:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-04 14:28 Oscar Salvador
2017-09-04 14:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-04 19:32 ` Waiman Long
2017-09-04 22:21 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-09-05 6:28 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-05 6:57 ` Oscar Salvador [this message]
2017-09-05 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 6:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 7:35 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-05 8:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 8:14 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-05 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 8:52 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-05 9:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 9:11 ` Juergen Gross
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