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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andreas Larsson <andreas@gaisler.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sparc/pci: Make pci_poke_lock a raw_spinlock_t.
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 17:33:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfcb530d-10e4-4ec7-b216-0b54d5089bfc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55e2fcb8-dd06-42e4-b5de-4a0b46057571@roeck-us.net>


On 11/25/24 4:54 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 11/25/24 13:29, Waiman Long wrote:
>>
>> On 11/25/24 4:25 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On 11/25/24 12:54, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/24 3:23 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>> On 11/25/24 12:06, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/25/24 11:33, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>>>> [ ... ]
>>>>>>>> Fixing that finally gives me a clean run. Nevertheless, that 
>>>>>>>> makes me wonder:
>>>>>>>> Should I just disable CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING for sparc 
>>>>>>>> runtime tests ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If no one is tryng to ever enable PREEMPT_RT on SPARC, I suppose 
>>>>>>> you could disable CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING to avoid the 
>>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SGTM. I'll do that unless someone gives me a good reason to keep 
>>>>>> it enabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually it can not be disabled with a configuration flag. It is
>>>>> automatically enabled. I'll have to disable PROVE_LOCKING to 
>>>>> disable it.
>>>>>
>>>>> config PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING
>>>>>         bool                    <---- no longer user configurable
>>>>>         depends on PROVE_LOCKING
>>>>>         default y
>>>>>         help
>>>>>          Enable the raw_spinlock vs. spinlock nesting checks which 
>>>>> ensure
>>>>>          that the lock nesting rules for PREEMPT_RT enabled 
>>>>> kernels are
>>>>>          not violated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really like that, and I don't understand the logic behind it,
>>>>> but it is what it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, the description of commit 560af5dc839 is misleading. It says 
>>>>> "Enable
>>>>> PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING _by default_" (emphasis mine). That is not 
>>>>> what the
>>>>> commit does. It force-enables PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING if 
>>>>> PROVE_LOCKING is
>>>>> enabled. It is all or nothing.
>>>>>
>>>> I think we can relax it by
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.debug b/lib/Kconfig.debug
>>>> index 5d9eca035d47..bfdbd3fa2d29 100644
>>>> --- a/lib/Kconfig.debug
>>>> +++ b/lib/Kconfig.debug
>>>> @@ -1399,7 +1399,7 @@ config PROVE_LOCKING
>>>>   config PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING
>>>>          bool
>>>>          depends on PROVE_LOCKING
>>>> -       default y
>>>> +       default y if ARCH_SUPPORTS_RT
>>>>          help
>>>>           Enable the raw_spinlock vs. spinlock nesting checks which 
>>>> ensure
>>>>           that the lock nesting rules for PREEMPT_RT enabled 
>>>> kernels are
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian, what do you think?
>>>>
>>>
>>>     depends on PROVE_LOCKING && ARCH_SUPPORTS_RT
>>>
>>> seems to make more sense to me.
>>
>> That will work too, but that will enforce that arches with no 
>> ARCH_SUPPORTS_RT will not be able to enable PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING 
>> even if people want to try it out.
>>
>
> No architecture will be able to enable anything because "bool" has no
> string associated with it. As mentioned before, it is all or nothing.
> Otherwise I could just configure "CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING=n"
> for sparc and be done.

Yes, you are right.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-25 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-09 15:45 [PATCH 0/1] lockdep: Enable PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING with PROVE_LOCKING Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-09 15:45 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-09 16:50   ` Waiman Long
2024-10-09 22:47     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-22 21:53   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-23 16:27   ` [PATCH 1/1] " Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25  8:53     ` [PATCH] sparc/pci: Make pci_poke_lock a raw_spinlock_t Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-25 17:01       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 17:43         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-25 17:59           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 18:12             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-25 19:23               ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 19:33                 ` Waiman Long
2024-11-25 20:06                   ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 20:23                     ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 20:54                       ` Waiman Long
2024-11-25 21:25                         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 21:29                           ` Waiman Long
2024-11-25 21:54                             ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-25 22:33                               ` Waiman Long [this message]
2024-11-26 11:20                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-26 16:59                           ` Waiman Long
2024-11-27 15:39                             ` Andreas Larsson
2024-11-27 16:02                               ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-27 16:53                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-27 17:44                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-27 23:47                                     ` Waiman Long
2024-11-28  0:08                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-28  0:31                                         ` Waiman Long
2024-11-28  1:17                                           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-11-28  1:55                                             ` Waiman Long

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