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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	daniel@ffwll.ch, corbet@lwn.net, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mripard@kernel.org, bskeggs@redhat.com, jason@jlekstrand.net,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, airlied@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH drm-next 05/14] drm/nouveau: new VM_BIND uapi interfaces
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 17:14:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0635ff3-027f-bcd7-afbc-46f4e62d3651@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67958920-c5bb-a0f5-2306-e3ae4fdbaeb3@redhat.com>

Concentrating this discussion on a very big misunderstanding first.

Am 06.02.23 um 14:27 schrieb Danilo Krummrich:
> [SNIP]
> My understanding is that userspace is fully responsible on the parts 
> of the GPU VA space it owns. This means that userspace needs to take 
> care to *not* ask the kernel to modify mappings that are in use currently.

This is a completely wrong assumption! Take a look at what games like 
Forza Horizzon are doing.

Basically that game allocates a very big sparse area and fills it with 
pages from BOs while shaders are accessing it. And yes, as far as I know 
this is completely valid behavior.

So you need to be able to handle this case anyway and the approach with 
the regions won't help you at all preventing that.

Regards,
Christian.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18  6:12 [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 01/14] drm: execution context for GEM buffers Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 02/14] drm/exec: fix memory leak in drm_exec_prepare_obj() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  8:51   ` Christian König
2023-01-18 19:00     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 03/14] drm: manager to keep track of GPUs VA mappings Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19  4:14   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-01-23 23:23   ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2023-01-26 23:43   ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27  0:24   ` Matthew Brost
2023-02-03 17:37   ` Matthew Brost
2023-02-06 13:35     ` Christian König
2023-02-06 13:46       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-14 11:52     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 04/14] drm: debugfs: provide infrastructure to dump a DRM GPU VA space Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 13:55   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18 15:47   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 05/14] drm/nouveau: new VM_BIND uapi interfaces Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  1:05   ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27  1:26     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  7:55       ` Christian König
2023-01-27 13:12         ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 13:23           ` Christian König
2023-01-27 14:44             ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27 15:17               ` Christian König
2023-01-27 20:25                 ` David Airlie
2023-01-30 12:58                   ` Christian König
2023-01-27 21:09                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-29 18:46                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-30 13:02                     ` Christian König
2023-01-30 23:38                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-01  8:10                       ` [Nouveau] " Dave Airlie
2023-02-02 11:53                         ` Christian König
2023-02-02 18:31                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-06  9:48                             ` Christian König
2023-02-06 13:27                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-06 16:14                                 ` Christian König [this message]
2023-02-06 18:20                                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-07  9:35                                     ` Christian König
2023-02-07 10:50                                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-02-10 11:50                                         ` Christian König
2023-02-10 12:47                                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  1:43     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-27  3:21       ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-27  3:33         ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 06/14] drm/nouveau: get vmm via nouveau_cli_vmm() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 07/14] drm/nouveau: bo: initialize GEM GPU VA interface Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 08/14] drm/nouveau: move usercopy helpers to nouveau_drv.h Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 09/14] drm/nouveau: fence: fail to emit when fence context is killed Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 10/14] drm/nouveau: chan: provide nouveau_channel_kill() Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 11/14] drm/nouveau: nvkm/vmm: implement raw ops to manage uvmm Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  9:37   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-20  3:37   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 12/14] drm/nouveau: implement uvmm for user mode bindings Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 13/14] drm/nouveau: implement new VM_BIND UAPI Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  8:37   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-18 20:37   ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-01-19  3:44     ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19  4:58       ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-19  7:32         ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2023-01-20 10:08         ` Boris Brezillon
2023-01-18  6:12 ` [PATCH drm-next 14/14] drm/nouveau: debugfs: implement DRM GPU VA debugfs Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18  8:53 ` [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Christian König
2023-01-18 15:34   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 15:37     ` Christian König
2023-01-18 16:19       ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 16:30         ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-18 16:50           ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-18 16:54             ` Alex Deucher
2023-01-18 19:17               ` Dave Airlie
2023-01-18 19:48                 ` Christian König
2023-01-19  4:04                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-01-19  5:23                     ` Matthew Brost
2023-01-19 11:33                       ` drm_gpuva_manager requirements (was Re: [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI) Christian König
2023-02-06 14:48                       ` [PATCH drm-next 00/14] [RFC] DRM GPUVA Manager & Nouveau VM_BIND UAPI Oded Gabbay
2023-03-16 16:39                         ` Danilo Krummrich

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