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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
Cc: "jarkko@kernel.org" <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Mallick, Asit K" <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	"Scarlata, Vincent R" <vincent.r.scarlata@intel.com>,
	"Cai, Chong" <chongc@google.com>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"dionnaglaze@google.com" <dionnaglaze@google.com>,
	"Bondarevska, Nataliia" <bondarn@google.com>,
	"Raynor, Scott" <scott.raynor@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/5] x86/sgx: Enable automatic SVN updates for SGX enclaves
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 08:37:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1421f42-4107-4a6a-80f3-c46d915b40a6@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cd81800-12ba-460e-ac28-4532d0be1ec9@intel.com>

On 7/14/25 06:54, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 7/14/25 00:35, Reshetova, Elena wrote:
>> I think you put it: this would require a spinlock in the fast path and
>> *in theory* if we are running many many concurrent enclaves can create 
>> contention
> FWIW, my mental model is that spinlocks that are held for short periods
> of time are pretty much the same cost as an atomic under contention.
> 
> If there are lots of users, the cost of moving the cacheline for the
> atomic or the spinlock dominates everything else. It doesn't matter
> whether that cacheline is an atomic_t or spinlock_t.
> 
> The only difference is that there is _visible_ spinning for a spinlock.

Oh, and I had a brain fart on this one. You've got a mutex, not a spinlock.

But the concept still applies: for small critical sections, the cost of
moving the cacheline dominates the cost of everything else, no matter if
it's a mutex, spinlock or atomic.

Never add complexity unless you're getting actual, real-world
performance out of it. In this case, the only thing you'd _maybe_
improve with added complexity is an open()/close() loop on /dev/sgx,
which is completely unrealistic.

      reply	other threads:[~2025-07-14 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-11 16:50 [PATCH v7 0/5] " Elena Reshetova
2025-07-11 16:50 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] x86/sgx: Introduce a counter to count the sgx_(vepc_)open() Elena Reshetova
2025-07-11 16:50 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] x86/cpufeatures: Add X86_FEATURE_SGX_EUPDATESVN feature flag Elena Reshetova
2025-07-11 16:50 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] x86/sgx: Define error codes for use by ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] Elena Reshetova
2025-07-11 16:50 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] x86/sgx: Implement ENCLS[EUPDATESVN] Elena Reshetova
2025-07-11 16:50 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] x86/sgx: Enable automatic SVN updates for SGX enclaves Elena Reshetova
2025-07-11 17:54   ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-14  7:35     ` Reshetova, Elena
2025-07-14 13:54       ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-14 15:37         ` Dave Hansen [this message]

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