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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Optimise io_uring completion waiting
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 19:21:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c15b2d54-c722-8fb4-266f-b589c1a21aa5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190923083549.GA42487@gmail.com>


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Hi, and thanks for the feedback.

It could be done with @cond indeed, that's how it works for now.
However, this addresses performance issues only.

The problem with wait_event_*() is that, if we have a counter and are
trying to wake up tasks after each increment, it would schedule each
waiting task O(threshold) times just for it to spuriously check @cond
and go back to sleep. All that overhead (memory barriers, registers
save/load, accounting, etc) turned out to be enough for some workloads
to slow down the system.

With this specialisation it still traverses a wait list and makes
indirect calls to the checker callback, but the list supposedly is
fairly  small, so performance there shouldn't be a problem, at least for
now.

Regarding semantics; It should wake a task when a value passed to
wake_up_threshold() is greater or equal then a task's threshold, that is
specified individually for each task in wait_threshold_*().

In pseudo code:
```
def wake_up_threshold(n, wait_queue):
	for waiter in wait_queue:
		waiter.wake_up_if(n >= waiter.threshold);
```

Any thoughts how to do it better? Ideas are very welcome.

BTW, this monster is mostly a copy-paste from wait_event_*(),
wait_bit_*(). We could try to extract some common parts from these
three, but that's another topic.


On 23/09/2019 11:35, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/22/19 2:08 AM, Pavel Begunkov (Silence) wrote:
>>> From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> There could be a lot of overhead within generic wait_event_*() used for
>>> waiting for large number of completions. The patchset removes much of
>>> it by using custom wait event (wait_threshold).
>>>
>>> Synthetic test showed ~40% performance boost. (see patch 2)
>>
>> I'm fine with the io_uring side of things, but to queue this up we
>> really need Peter or Ingo to sign off on the core wakeup bits...
>>
>> Peter?
> 
> I'm not sure an extension is needed for such a special interface, why not 
> just put a ->threshold value next to the ctx->wait field and use either 
> the regular wait_event() APIs with the proper condition, or 
> wait_event_cmd() style APIs if you absolutely need something more complex 
> to happen inside?
> 
> Should result in a much lower linecount and no scheduler changes. :-)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Ingo
> 

-- 
Yours sincerely,
Pavel Begunkov


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-23 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-22  8:08 Pavel Begunkov (Silence)
2019-09-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] sched/wait: Add wait_threshold Pavel Begunkov (Silence)
2019-09-23  7:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-23 16:37     ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-23 19:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-23 20:23         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-24  6:44         ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] io_uring: Optimise cq waiting with wait_threshold Pavel Begunkov (Silence)
2019-09-22 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Optimise io_uring completion waiting Jens Axboe
2019-09-23  8:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-23 16:21     ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2019-09-23 16:32       ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-23 20:48         ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-23 23:00           ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24  7:06             ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24  8:02               ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24  8:27                 ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24  8:36                   ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24  9:33                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24 10:11                       ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24  9:49                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-24 10:13                       ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24 10:34                         ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24 11:11                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24 11:15                             ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24 11:23                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24 13:13                                 ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24 17:33                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24 17:46                                     ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24 18:28                                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24 19:32                                         ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24 11:43                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-24 12:57                               ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24 11:33                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-24  9:20                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24 10:09                     ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-24  9:21                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2019-09-24 10:09                   ` Jens Axboe

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