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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Linu Cherian <linu.cherian@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Mark Rtland <mark.rtland@arm.com>,
	linx-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linx-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kasan-dev@googlegrops.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as pmdp_get() while accessing PMD
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 11:49:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1ca2256-2516-4f4d-ba08-a2f584fc812b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260903060657.2717457-2-anshuman.khandual@arm.com>

On 03/09/2026 07:06, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> Convert all READ_ONCE() based PMD accesses as pmdp_get() instead which will
> support both D64 and D128 translation regime going forward. That is because
> READ_ONCE() would need 128 bit single copy atomic guarantees, while reading
> 128 bit page table entries which is currently not supported on arm64. Build
> fails for READ_ONCE() while accessing beyond 64 bits.
> 
> Load Pair/Store Pair (ldp/stp) are only single copy atomic if FEAT_LSE1
> is supported (which is required when FEAT_D128 is supported). Currently 128
> bit pgtables is a compile time decision - so we could have chosen to extend
> READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() to allow 128 bit for this configuration. But then
> it's a general purpose API and we were concerned that other users might
> eventually creep in that expect 128 and then fail to compile in the other
> configs.
> 
> But worse, we are considering eventually making D128 a boot time option, at
> which point we'd have to make READ_ONCE() always allow 128 bit at compile
> time but then it might silently tear at runtime.
> 
> So our preference is to standardize on these existing helpers, which we can
> override in arm64 to give the 128 bit single copy guarantee when required.

Perhaps something like this conveys the justification a bit more clearly?:

---8<---
arm64/mm: Use pmdp_get() for PMD accesses

Replace READ_ONCE() with pmdp_get() for PMD accesses in preparation for
supporting both D64 and D128 translation table formats.

READ_ONCE() cannot currently be used for 128-bit page table entries on arm64
because it does not provide the required 128-bit single-copy atomicity, causing
builds to fail for accesses wider than 64 bits.

Although LDP/STP provide the required atomicity when FEAT_LSE is available (as
required by FEAT_D128), extending READ_ONCE() to support 128-bit accesses is
undesirable. READ_ONCE() is a general-purpose API, so doing so could encourage
other 128-bit users that would either fail to build in configurations without
D128 support or, if D128 becomes a runtime option, silently permit tearing on
systems without the required hardware support.

Instead, standardize PMD accesses on the existing page-table helpers. These can
be overridden on arm64 to provide 128-bit single-copy atomicity when required.
---8<---

With that:

Reviewed-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>


> 
> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> Cc: Mark Rtland <mark.rtland@arm.com>
> Cc: linx-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> Cc: linx-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: kasan-dev@googlegrops.com
> Signed-off-by: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
> ---
>  arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h |  3 ++-
>  arch/arm64/mm/fault.c            |  2 +-
>  arch/arm64/mm/fixmap.c           |  2 +-
>  arch/arm64/mm/hugetlbpage.c      |  2 +-
>  arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c       |  4 ++--
>  arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c              | 22 +++++++++++-----------
>  arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c         |  2 +-
>  arch/arm64/mm/trans_pgd.c        |  2 +-
>  8 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> index 61fbfab3e06e..51f55498d43d 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable.h
> @@ -805,7 +805,8 @@ static inline unsigned long pmd_page_vaddr(pmd_t pmd)
>  }
>  
>  /* Find an entry in the third-level page table. */
> -#define pte_offset_phys(dir,addr)	(pmd_page_paddr(READ_ONCE(*(dir))) + pte_index(addr) * sizeof(pte_t))
> +#define pte_offset_phys(dir, addr)	(pmd_page_paddr(pmdp_get(dir)) + \
> +					 pte_index(addr) * sizeof(pte_t))
>  
>  #define pte_set_fixmap(addr)		((pte_t *)set_fixmap_offset(FIX_PTE, addr))
>  #define pte_set_fixmap_offset(pmd, addr)	pte_set_fixmap(pte_offset_phys(pmd, addr))
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c b/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c
> index c75bab3c2f4b..cb25cb130e83 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c
> @@ -188,7 +188,7 @@ static void show_pte(unsigned long addr)
>  			break;
>  
>  		pmdp = pmd_offset(pudp, addr);
> -		pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +		pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  		ptval_to_str(pmd_str, pmd_val(pmd));
>  		pr_cont(", pmd=%s", pmd_str);
>  		if (pmd_none(pmd) || pmd_bad(pmd))
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/fixmap.c b/arch/arm64/mm/fixmap.c
> index f66a0016dd02..3cdac8021d4f 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/fixmap.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/fixmap.c
> @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ static inline pte_t *fixmap_pte(unsigned long addr)
>  
>  static void __init early_fixmap_init_pte(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr)
>  {
> -	pmd_t pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +	pmd_t pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  	pte_t *ptep;
>  
>  	if (pmd_none(pmd)) {
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/hugetlbpage.c b/arch/arm64/mm/hugetlbpage.c
> index 8e799c1fe0aa..cdaa4500faf9 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/hugetlbpage.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/hugetlbpage.c
> @@ -304,7 +304,7 @@ pte_t *huge_pte_offset(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  		addr &= CONT_PMD_MASK;
>  
>  	pmdp = pmd_offset(pudp, addr);
> -	pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +	pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  	if (!(sz == PMD_SIZE || sz == CONT_PMD_SIZE) &&
>  	    pmd_none(pmd))
>  		return NULL;
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> index 45fbdce684c8..7ca833c5de5e 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ static phys_addr_t __init kasan_alloc_raw_page(int node)
>  static pte_t *__init kasan_pte_offset(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr, int node,
>  				      bool early)
>  {
> -	if (pmd_none(READ_ONCE(*pmdp))) {
> +	if (pmd_none(pmdp_get(pmdp))) {
>  		phys_addr_t pte_phys = early ?
>  				__pa_symbol(kasan_early_shadow_pte)
>  					: kasan_alloc_zeroed_page(node);
> @@ -138,7 +138,7 @@ static void __init kasan_pmd_populate(pud_t *pudp, unsigned long addr,
>  	do {
>  		next = pmd_addr_end(addr, end);
>  		kasan_pte_populate(pmdp, addr, next, node, early);
> -	} while (pmdp++, addr = next, addr != end && pmd_none(READ_ONCE(*pmdp)));
> +	} while (pmdp++, addr = next, addr != end && pmd_none(pmdp_get(pmdp)));
>  }
>  
>  static void __init kasan_pud_populate(p4d_t *p4dp, unsigned long addr,
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
> index b5de4095d650..32daaa547d09 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
> @@ -200,7 +200,7 @@ static int alloc_init_cont_pte(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr,
>  			       int flags)
>  {
>  	unsigned long next;
> -	pmd_t pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +	pmd_t pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  	pte_t *ptep;
>  
>  	BUG_ON(pmd_leaf(pmd));
> @@ -257,7 +257,7 @@ static int init_pmd(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr, unsigned long end,
>  	unsigned long next;
>  
>  	do {
> -		pmd_t old_pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +		pmd_t old_pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  
>  		next = pmd_addr_end(addr, end);
>  
> @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ static int init_pmd(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr, unsigned long end,
>  			 * only allow updates to the permission attributes.
>  			 */
>  			BUG_ON(!pgattr_change_is_safe(pmd_val(old_pmd),
> -						      READ_ONCE(pmd_val(*pmdp))));
> +						      pmd_val(pmdp_get(pmdp))));
>  		} else {
>  			int ret;
>  
> @@ -282,7 +282,7 @@ static int init_pmd(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr, unsigned long end,
>  				return ret;
>  
>  			VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(pmd_val(old_pmd) != 0 &&
> -					pmd_val(old_pmd) != READ_ONCE(pmd_val(*pmdp)));
> +					pmd_val(old_pmd) != pmd_val(pmdp_get(pmdp)));
>  		}
>  		phys += next - addr;
>  	} while (pmdp++, addr = next, addr != end);
> @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ static int init_pmd(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr, unsigned long end,
>  static bool pmd_range_has_valid_noncont(pmd_t *pmdp)
>  {
>  	for (int i = 0; i < CONT_PMDS; i++) {
> -		pte_t pte = pmd_pte(READ_ONCE(pmdp[i]));
> +		pte_t pte = pmd_pte(pmdp_get(pmdp + i));
>  
>  		if (pte_valid(pte) && !pte_cont(pte))
>  			return true;
> @@ -1553,7 +1553,7 @@ static void unmap_hotplug_pmd_range(pud_t *pudp, unsigned long addr,
>  	do {
>  		next = pmd_addr_end(addr, end);
>  		pmdp = pmd_offset(pudp, addr);
> -		pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +		pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  		if (pmd_none(pmd))
>  			continue;
>  
> @@ -1708,7 +1708,7 @@ static void free_empty_pmd_table(pud_t *pudp, unsigned long addr,
>  	do {
>  		next = pmd_addr_end(addr, end);
>  		pmdp = pmd_offset(pudp, addr);
> -		pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +		pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  		if (pmd_none(pmd))
>  			continue;
>  
> @@ -1729,7 +1729,7 @@ static void free_empty_pmd_table(pud_t *pudp, unsigned long addr,
>  	 */
>  	pmdp = pmd_offset(pudp, 0UL);
>  	for (i = 0; i < PTRS_PER_PMD; i++) {
> -		if (!pmd_none(READ_ONCE(pmdp[i])))
> +		if (!pmd_none(pmdp_get(pmdp + i)))
>  			return;
>  	}
>  
> @@ -1881,7 +1881,7 @@ int pmd_set_huge(pmd_t *pmdp, phys_addr_t phys, pgprot_t prot)
>  	pmd_t new_pmd = pfn_pmd(__phys_to_pfn(phys), mk_pmd_sect_prot(prot));
>  
>  	/* Only allow permission changes for now */
> -	if (!pgattr_change_is_safe(READ_ONCE(pmd_val(*pmdp)),
> +	if (!pgattr_change_is_safe(pmd_val(pmdp_get(pmdp)),
>  				   pmd_val(new_pmd)))
>  		return 0;
>  
> @@ -1906,7 +1906,7 @@ int pud_clear_huge(pud_t *pudp)
>  
>  int pmd_clear_huge(pmd_t *pmdp)
>  {
> -	if (!pmd_leaf(READ_ONCE(*pmdp)))
> +	if (!pmd_leaf(pmdp_get(pmdp)))
>  		return 0;
>  	pmd_clear(pmdp);
>  	return 1;
> @@ -1917,7 +1917,7 @@ int pmd_free_pte_page(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr)
>  	pte_t *table;
>  	pmd_t pmd;
>  
> -	pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +	pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  
>  	if (!pmd_table(pmd)) {
>  		VM_WARN_ON(1);
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c b/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c
> index bbe98ac9ad8c..0ca07bd5ded9 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/pageattr.c
> @@ -414,7 +414,7 @@ bool kernel_page_present(struct page *page)
>  		return pud_valid(pud);
>  
>  	pmdp = pmd_offset(pudp, addr);
> -	pmd = READ_ONCE(*pmdp);
> +	pmd = pmdp_get(pmdp);
>  	if (pmd_none(pmd))
>  		return false;
>  	if (pmd_leaf(pmd))
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/trans_pgd.c b/arch/arm64/mm/trans_pgd.c
> index cca9706a875c..b27b2d2c20c3 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/trans_pgd.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/trans_pgd.c
> @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ static int copy_pmd(struct trans_pgd_info *info, pud_t *dst_pudp,
>  
>  	src_pmdp = pmd_offset(src_pudp, start);
>  	do {
> -		pmd_t pmd = READ_ONCE(*src_pmdp);
> +		pmd_t pmd = pmdp_get(src_pmdp);
>  
>  		next = pmd_addr_end(addr, end);
>  		if (pmd_none(pmd))


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-03  6:06 [PATCH 0/4] arm64/mm: Convert pgtable READ_ONCE() as pxdp_get() Anshuman Khandual
2026-09-03  6:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as pmdp_get() while accessing PMD Anshuman Khandual
2026-09-21 10:49   ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2026-09-21 12:44     ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-09-03  6:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as pudp_get() while accessing PUD Anshuman Khandual
2026-09-03  6:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as p4dp_get() while accessing P4D Anshuman Khandual
2026-09-03  6:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE() as pgdp_get() while accessing PGD Anshuman Khandual
2026-09-21 10:55 ` [PATCH 0/4] arm64/mm: Convert pgtable READ_ONCE() as pxdp_get() Ryan Roberts
2026-09-21 12:41   ` Anshuman Khandual
2026-09-21 14:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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