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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Xu Xin <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>, Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
	Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Guilherme Giacomo Simoes <trintaeoitogc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: implement and use vma_is_faulted(), silence KCSAN
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 19:32:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1f21bf2-71e3-4537-a000-fd0e95257759@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqGJx-uQjN8-DEBe@gremlin>

On 9/9/26 18:36, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 06:24:52PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 9/9/26 18:14, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
>>> Provide a function to abstract the common task of checking whether
>>> a VMA is faulted in or not.
>>>
>>> A VMA or mmap lock must be held when calling this function. For an attached
>>> VMA the transitions between unfaulted/faulted state are:
>>>
>>>        Transition        |              VMA/mmap Lock state
>>>  ------------------------|-----------------------------------------------
>>>    unfaulted to faulted  | write lock OR read lock + mm->page_table_lock
>>>    faulted to unfaulted  | write lock
>>>
>>> So vma_is_faulted() never provides a false positive (the lock precludes
>>> it), but if only a read lock is held, a negative result must be re-checked
>>> with mm->page_table_lock held.
>>>
>>> Detached VMAs cannot be concurrently manipulated as they are removed from
>>> the maple tree so require no guarantees.
>>>
>>> Use data_race() to silence KCSAN about non-existent data races between
>>> concurrent vma->anon_vma read/write on optimistic fault tests.
>>>
>>> Also while here, const-ify vma_is_attached(), vma_assert_stabilised() and
>>> dependants.
>>>
>>> Finally, update the core VMA merge/split, rmap, mremap, KSM and fault
>>> preparation callers which test vma->anon_vma directly to use
>>> vma_is_faulted() instead.
>>>
>>> Note that the lockless read in reusable_anon_vma() is doing more than
>>> checking whether the VMA is faulted - it is returning the anon_vma to be
>>> used on fault, so this check is not altered.
>>>
>>> There is one odd one out - file_backed_vma_is_retractable() - which holds
>>> neither a VMA nor mmap lock and is stabilised by the file rmap lock only.
>>>
>>> Therefore just add a comment to explain why the direct vma->anon_vma check
>>> is required.
>>>
>>> Reported-by: Guilherme Giacomo Simoes <trintaeoitogc@gmail.com>
>>> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260829100034.423064-1-trintaeoitogc@gmail.com/
>>> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260909115723.528501-1-trintaeoitogc@gmail.com/
>>> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) <ljs@kernel.org>
>>> ---
>>
>>
>> Is vma_is_faulted() really the right thing to use when wanting to say that we
>> (likely) faulted in an anon page?
>>
>> I think that's highly confusing, considering just MAP_SHARED mappings where that
>> will never be true.
> 
> Hmm, yeah.
> 
> I mean there's nowhere you'd do this check where you weren't checking something
> that couldn't at least in theory be anon-faulted. But it's confusing vs. shared
> you're right.
> 
> vma_is_anon_faulted()?

Hm, not sure.

	vma_had_anon_fault()

Might sound better.

Alternatively:

	vma_has_anon_vma()

is the obvious thing we're checking.

	vma_might_have_anon_folios()

would be the clearest (no anon_vma -> no anon folios). But semantically that's
likely not what you want to check in the code?


The whole faulted/unfaulted terminology is a bit confusing ...

-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-09 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-09 16:14 Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 16:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 16:36   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 17:32     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-09 17:48       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10  7:46         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10  8:14           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)

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