From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
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Guilherme Giacomo Simoes <trintaeoitogc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: implement and use vma_is_faulted(), silence KCSAN
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 19:32:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1f21bf2-71e3-4537-a000-fd0e95257759@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqGJx-uQjN8-DEBe@gremlin>
On 9/9/26 18:36, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 06:24:52PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 9/9/26 18:14, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
>>> Provide a function to abstract the common task of checking whether
>>> a VMA is faulted in or not.
>>>
>>> A VMA or mmap lock must be held when calling this function. For an attached
>>> VMA the transitions between unfaulted/faulted state are:
>>>
>>> Transition | VMA/mmap Lock state
>>> ------------------------|-----------------------------------------------
>>> unfaulted to faulted | write lock OR read lock + mm->page_table_lock
>>> faulted to unfaulted | write lock
>>>
>>> So vma_is_faulted() never provides a false positive (the lock precludes
>>> it), but if only a read lock is held, a negative result must be re-checked
>>> with mm->page_table_lock held.
>>>
>>> Detached VMAs cannot be concurrently manipulated as they are removed from
>>> the maple tree so require no guarantees.
>>>
>>> Use data_race() to silence KCSAN about non-existent data races between
>>> concurrent vma->anon_vma read/write on optimistic fault tests.
>>>
>>> Also while here, const-ify vma_is_attached(), vma_assert_stabilised() and
>>> dependants.
>>>
>>> Finally, update the core VMA merge/split, rmap, mremap, KSM and fault
>>> preparation callers which test vma->anon_vma directly to use
>>> vma_is_faulted() instead.
>>>
>>> Note that the lockless read in reusable_anon_vma() is doing more than
>>> checking whether the VMA is faulted - it is returning the anon_vma to be
>>> used on fault, so this check is not altered.
>>>
>>> There is one odd one out - file_backed_vma_is_retractable() - which holds
>>> neither a VMA nor mmap lock and is stabilised by the file rmap lock only.
>>>
>>> Therefore just add a comment to explain why the direct vma->anon_vma check
>>> is required.
>>>
>>> Reported-by: Guilherme Giacomo Simoes <trintaeoitogc@gmail.com>
>>> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260829100034.423064-1-trintaeoitogc@gmail.com/
>>> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260909115723.528501-1-trintaeoitogc@gmail.com/
>>> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) <ljs@kernel.org>
>>> ---
>>
>>
>> Is vma_is_faulted() really the right thing to use when wanting to say that we
>> (likely) faulted in an anon page?
>>
>> I think that's highly confusing, considering just MAP_SHARED mappings where that
>> will never be true.
>
> Hmm, yeah.
>
> I mean there's nowhere you'd do this check where you weren't checking something
> that couldn't at least in theory be anon-faulted. But it's confusing vs. shared
> you're right.
>
> vma_is_anon_faulted()?
Hm, not sure.
vma_had_anon_fault()
Might sound better.
Alternatively:
vma_has_anon_vma()
is the obvious thing we're checking.
vma_might_have_anon_folios()
would be the clearest (no anon_vma -> no anon folios). But semantically that's
likely not what you want to check in the code?
The whole faulted/unfaulted terminology is a bit confusing ...
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-09 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-09 16:14 Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 16:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-09 16:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-09 17:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-09 17:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-10 7:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 8:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
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