From: Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Marijn Suijten <marijn.suijten@somainline.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] arm64: qcom: allow up to 4 lanes for the Type-C DisplayPort Altmode
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 10:16:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2f2ba36-1a25-450e-99b9-79aa4fd4913d@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f21b7d52-4c3f-4e5b-bee7-f8b2945b5b02@oss.qualcomm.com>
On 06/08/2025 17:48, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 6/3/25 3:17 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 01:03:11PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>> On 6/2/25 10:55 AM, Neil Armstrong wrote:
>>>> On 28/05/2025 18:56, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>>> On 5/28/25 1:22 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 01:13:26PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/28/25 11:00 AM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 12:24:02AM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/27/25 11:10 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 10:40:02PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Register a typec mux in order to change the PHY mode on the Type-C
>>>>>>>>>>> mux events depending on the mode and the svid when in Altmode setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The DisplayPort phy should be left enabled if is still powered on
>>>>>>>>>>> by the DRM DisplayPort controller, so bail out until the DisplayPort
>>>>>>>>>>> PHY is not powered off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This series doesn't seem to solve the USB side of a problem. When the
>>>>>>>>>> PHY is being switch to the 4-lane mode, USB controller looses PIPE
>>>>>>>>>> clock, so it needs to be switched to the USB-2 mode.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't find issues with that on X13s.. Not sure if it's related, but
>>>>>>>>> on the SL7, after plugging in a 4ln DP connection, I need to plug in
>>>>>>>>> the USB thumb drive twice for the first time (only in that sequence)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But there's nothing interesting in dmesg and the phy seems to be
>>>>>>>>> programmed with the same values on both the initial and the subsequent
>>>>>>>>> working plug-in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please try using a DP dongle with USB 2 passthrough (there are some).
>>>>>>>> Or just emulate this by enabling DP PHY / DP chain for plugged in USB3
>>>>>>>> devices. Would you be able to see the USB device on a bus?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only have a dongle with both display and usb that does 2ln dp
>>>>>>> (I tested 4ln dp on a type-c display that I don't think has a hub)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> USB3 - yes, USB2 - no (but it works after a replug)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you talking about essentially doing qcom,select-utmi-as-pipe-clk
>>>>>>> at runtime?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think so.
>>>>>
>>>>> So after quite some time playing with that, I noticed that the USB2
>>>>> device was never actually kicked off the bus.. and works totally fine
>>>>> after connecting the display output (2ln DP)
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking at dmesg, checking for discovery/disconnect messages,
>>>>> but the device was simply never disconnected (which makes sense given
>>>>> repurposing USB3 TX/RX lanes doesn't affect the D+/D- of USB2)
>>>>>
>>>>> I also read some docs and learnt that what we call
>>>>> qcom,select-utmi-as-pipe-clk is suppossed to be a debug feature
>>>>> and is unnecessary to set on USB2.0-only controllers
>>>>>
>>>>> The USB controller programming guide though doesn't talk about DP,
>>>>> but I'd expect that we may need to set that override for 4lnDP+USB2
>>>>> use cases (which I don't have a dongle for)
>>>>
>>>> Yeah basically we need to:
>>>> 1) power-off the USB3 PHY
>>>> 2) switch to UTMI clock
>>>>
>>>> In the following states:
>>>> - USB safe mode (USB2 lanes may still be connected)
>>>> - 4lanes DP mode
>>>> - DP-only mode
>>>>
>>>> But for this, the dwc3 should also get USB-C events with an addition mode-switch property.
>>>> The flatten DWC3 node now allows that !
>>>
>>> Yeah, I got even more confirmation this is intended..
>>>
>>> I hacked up something that boils down to:
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/drd.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/drd.c
>>> index 7977860932b1..e5a0a8ec624d 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/drd.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/drd.c
>>> @@ -464,6 +464,11 @@ static int dwc3_usb_role_switch_set(struct usb_role_switch *sw,
>>> break;
>>> }
>>>
>>> + if (dwc->mode_fn)
>>> + dwc->mode_fn(dwc, mode);
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/usb/dwc3/dwc3-qcom.c b/drivers/usb/dwc3/dwc3-qcom.c
>>> index 7334de85ad10..ea56f5087ecb 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/usb/dwc3/dwc3-qcom.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/dwc3/dwc3-qcom.c
>>> +static void mode_fn(struct dwc3 *dwc, enum usb_role role)
>>> +{
>>> + struct dwc3_qcom *qcom = to_dwc3_qcom(dwc);
>>> +
>>> + if (dwc->usb3_generic_phy[0])
>>> + dwc3_qcom_select_utmi_clk(qcom, role == USB_ROLE_NONE);
>>
>> This part is a hack for devices with no USB-2 passthrough, isn't it?
>>
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> It was easy to tap into because there's already mode switch handling..
>>> But obviously it's a hack - should I register a typec_mux in there?
>>
>> I think so, we should listen to mode changes, instead of host/device
>> changes.
>>
>>> Should it go to dwc3-common or dwc3-qcom?
>>
>> I'd say, dwc3-qcom. Not all dwc3 controllers are USB 3 capable, not
>> talking about the USB-C.
>
> I did some coding and we can't switch clock sources at runtime (not a
> huge shocker), but the bigger issue is that, paraphrasing the HPG, the
> DWC3 controller must be programmed as if it was not SS-capable (probably
> skipping starting some subcores), which is not trivial
>
> I also came up with a sneaky workaround of simply keeping the USB PLL
> always-on, but the hardware disagrees to do so if the PHY is configured
> in the DP_ONLY mode (which I suppose makes sense)
>
> All in all, I was not able to find people with a device that actually
> does 4ln DP + USB2 and IIUC the only drawback would be that USB2 would
> not work (and not stall the system). Not sure if/how it recovers after
> you'd plug something else into that port later on, but again, I don't
> have anyone that could test it.
>
> With that in mind, would you be okay with me resubmitting this series
> with just a rebase & taking care of the comment to patch 5 (pertaining
> to the default mode setting if svid != DP)?
Sure please do so, and I'll retest on the SM8550 & SM8650 platforms.
Thanks for looking !
Neil
>
> Konrad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-07 8:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-27 20:40 Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-27 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] dt-bindings: phy: qcom,sc8280xp-qmp-usb43dp: Reference usb-switch.yaml to allow mode-switch Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-27 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] phy: qcom: qmp-combo: Rename 'mode' to 'phy_mode' Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-27 21:03 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-27 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] phy: qcom: qmp-combo: store DP phy power state Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-27 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] phy: qcom: qmp-combo: introduce QMPPHY_MODE Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-27 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] phy: qcom: qmp-combo: register a typec mux to change the QMPPHY_MODE Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-27 21:55 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-27 22:22 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-28 8:58 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-28 11:21 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-28 11:22 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-02 8:51 ` Neil Armstrong
2025-06-03 10:32 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-27 20:40 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] arm64: dts: qcom: sc8280xp-lenovo-thinkpad-x13: Set up 4-lane DP Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-27 21:10 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] arm64: qcom: allow up to 4 lanes for the Type-C DisplayPort Altmode Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-27 22:24 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-28 9:00 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-28 11:13 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-05-28 11:22 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-28 16:56 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-02 8:55 ` Neil Armstrong
2025-06-03 11:03 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-03 13:17 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-08-06 15:48 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-08-07 8:16 ` Neil Armstrong [this message]
2025-05-28 12:37 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-05-29 8:43 ` Jens Glathe
2025-05-29 11:13 ` Alex
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