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From: Naman Jain <namjain@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Michael Kelley" <mhklinux@outlook.com>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	"Haiyang Zhang" <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	"Dexuan Cui" <decui@microsoft.com>,
	"Long Li" <longli@microsoft.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <mani@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: "linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: hv: Probe vPCI buses asynchronously
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 14:38:47 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3345afb-7491-42c9-9e9c-609860aea515@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR02MB4157AB3B9404AF9CC43BF11FD4842@SN6PR02MB4157.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>



On 9/22/2026 2:39 AM, Michael Kelley wrote:
> From: Naman Jain <namjain@linux.microsoft.com> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2026 10:48 PM
>>
>> On Hyper-V guests each virtual PCI bus is enumerated by its own
>> hv_pci_probe() call. The probe performs several synchronous host
>> request/response exchanges while negotiating the protocol, querying bus
>> relations, entering D0, and reporting allocated resources. These waits
>> are latency-bound rather than CPU-bound.
>>
>> hv_pci registers as an ordinary VMBus driver, so driver_register() walks
>> matching vPCI buses and probes them sequentially while the driver's
>> initcall runs. On guests that expose several devices, each through its
>> own vPCI bus, this serialization adds the host round-trip latencies to
>> device initialization.
>>
>> Each bus is described by its own struct hv_pcibus_device, so
>> independent buses can be probed concurrently. Request asynchronous
>> probing via PROBE_PREFER_ASYNCHRONOUS, causing the driver core to
>> schedule matching buses for asynchronous probe work.
>>
>> On an Azure Standard_L32s_v3 guest with five vPCI targets (four NVMe
>> controllers and one Mellanox VF), Linux 7.2.3 was tested with one warm-up
>> and three measured boots per variant. The median interval from the first
>> hv_pci_probe() entry to the last return decreased from 2847.968 ms to
>> 2786.709 ms, a 61.259 ms (2.15%) improvement.
> 
> The elapsed time improvement is rather disappointing given the
> complexity of the probing sequence and the number of interactions
> with the Hyper-V host. Do you have any insight into why there isn't a
> larger reduction? Is something mostly serializing the work even though
> PROBE_PREFER_ASYNCHRONOUS is specified?
> 
> Michael
> 

I can see these reasons for not seeing great improvements:
1. Timing of device offers from the host is beyond the control of guest 
and the Hyper-V host may also be serializing the requests from the host.
2. Shared locks that needs to be handled separately:
    * hyperv_mmio_lock during VMBus MMIO allocation.
    * pci_rescan_remove_lock during PCI resource assignment and device 
addition.


I digged more into it, and it is indeed because of late offers from 
Hyper-V. I was considering the start of first probe to the last return, 
for time calculations.

For the 4 PCI devices on my setup whose offers were delivered together, 
the performance improvement was about 24%. However with the last offer 
coming late for MLX PCI device, overall improvement in time was lesser 
in terms of percentage.

Dexuan had removed pci_rescan_remove_lock in his previous upstream 
attempt, but I ommitted it intentionally this time because from AI 
review, I saw a potential race condition that we would introduce if we 
remove it. Secondly, I did not observe any benefits of removing this 
lock. But I am going to revisit it again.

Regards,
Naman

>>
>> Co-developed-by: Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Naman Jain <namjain@linux.microsoft.com>
>> ---
>>
>> Previous discussion around this change:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230420024037.5921-7-decui@microsoft.com/
>>
>> Skipping removal of pci_rescan_remove_lock, due to possible
>> synchronization problems associated with this lock removal. Also, with
>> my current setup, I was not able to see much improvements with this
>> change, so keeping it for later. Asynchronous probing change is not
>> dependent on this.
>>
>> ---
>>   drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c | 3 +++
>>   1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c b/drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c
>> index 89816a2bd7cd3..056d379b3cee4 100644
>> --- a/drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c
>> +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c
>> @@ -4155,6 +4155,9 @@ static struct hv_driver hv_pci_drv = {
>>   	.remove		= hv_pci_remove,
>>   	.suspend	= hv_pci_suspend,
>>   	.resume		= hv_pci_resume,
>> +	.driver = {
>> +		.probe_type = PROBE_PREFER_ASYNCHRONOUS,
>> +	},
>>   };
>>
>>   static void __exit exit_hv_pci_drv(void)
>> --
>> 2.43.0
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-22  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07  5:47 Naman Jain
2026-09-17  5:31 ` Sahil Chandna
2026-09-19 23:09   ` Wei Liu
2026-09-21 21:09 ` Michael Kelley
2026-09-22  9:08   ` Naman Jain [this message]
2026-09-22 14:42     ` Michael Kelley
2026-09-23  4:20       ` Naman Jain

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