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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/22] coco/tdx-host: Implement firmware upload sysfs ABI for TDX module updates
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 21:45:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c38028557a53d0b70bbfefd36a9c51b8b7de24c3.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260315135920.354657-8-chao.gao@intel.com>
On Sun, 2026-03-15 at 06:58 -0700, Chao Gao wrote:
> Linux kernel supports two primary firmware update mechanisms:
> - request_firmware()
> - firmware upload (or fw_upload)
>
> The former is used by microcode updates, SEV firmware updates, etc. The
> latter is used by CXL and FPGA firmware updates.
>
> One key difference between them is: request_firmware() loads a named
> file from the filesystem where the filename is kernel-controlled, while
> fw_upload accepts firmware data directly from userspace.
>
> Use fw_upload for TDX module updates as loading a named file isn't
> suitable for TDX (see below for more reasons). Specifically, register
> TDX faux device with fw_upload framework to expose sysfs interfaces
> and implement operations to process data blobs supplied by userspace.
>
> Implementation notes:
> 1. P-SEAMLDR processes the entire update at once rather than
> chunk-by-chunk, so .write() is called only once per update; so the
> offset should be always 0.
> 2. An update completes synchronously within .write(), meaning
> .poll_complete() is only called after the update succeeds and so always
> returns success
>
> Why fw_upload instead of request_firmware()?
> ============================================
> The explicit file selection capabilities of fw_upload is preferred over
> the implicit file selection of request_firmware() for the following
> reasons:
>
> a. Intel distributes all versions of the TDX module, allowing admins to
> load any version rather than always defaulting to the latest. This
> flexibility is necessary because future extensions may require reverting to
> a previous version to clear fatal errors.
>
> b. Some module version series are platform-specific. For example, the 1.5.x
> series is for certain platform generations, while the 2.0.x series is
> intended for others.
>
> c. The update policy for TDX module updates is non-linear at times. The
> latest TDX module may not be compatible. For example, TDX module 1.5.x
> may be updated to 1.5.y but not to 1.5.y+1. This policy is documented
> separately in a file released along with each TDX module release.
>
> So, the default policy of "request_firmware()" of "always load latest", is
> not suitable for TDX. Userspace needs to deploy a more sophisticated policy
> check (e.g., latest may not be compatible), and there is potential
> operator choice to consider.
>
> Just have userspace pick rather than add kernel mechanism to change the
> default policy of request_firmware().
>
> Signed-off-by: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
> Reviewed-by: Tony Lindgren <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>
>
Reviewed-by: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-18 21:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-15 13:58 [PATCH v5 00/22] Runtime TDX module update support Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 01/22] x86/virt/tdx: Move low level SEAMCALL helpers out of <asm/tdx.h> Chao Gao
2026-03-16 12:41 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 02/22] coco/tdx-host: Introduce a "tdx_host" device Chao Gao
2026-03-16 12:48 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 03/22] coco/tdx-host: Expose TDX module version Chao Gao
2026-03-16 12:54 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 21:37 ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 04/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce a wrapper for P-SEAMLDR SEAMCALLs Chao Gao
2026-03-16 13:05 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17 0:43 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-17 9:59 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 7:13 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-18 9:34 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-19 3:02 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-19 7:14 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 21:38 ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 05/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Retrieve P-SEAMLDR information Chao Gao
2026-03-16 13:12 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17 1:05 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:00 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 7:53 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-18 8:57 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 21:40 ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 06/22] coco/tdx-host: Expose P-SEAMLDR information via sysfs Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:06 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17 15:34 ` Dave Hansen
2026-03-18 6:54 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 8:20 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-18 9:10 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 9:28 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 07/22] coco/tdx-host: Implement firmware upload sysfs ABI for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:20 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 8:28 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 21:45 ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 08/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Allocate and populate a module update request Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:59 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 8:50 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 10:58 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-19 7:24 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-19 12:58 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 21:36 ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 09/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce skeleton for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-03-18 22:11 ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-19 13:15 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20 8:10 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 10/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Abort updates if errors occurred midway Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:19 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20 8:12 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 11/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Shut down the current TDX module Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:24 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20 8:21 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-23 1:33 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 12/22] x86/virt/tdx: Reset software states during TDX module shutdown Chao Gao
2026-03-16 9:06 ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-17 8:27 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-17 11:08 ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 13/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Install a new TDX module Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:32 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-23 2:14 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 14/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Do TDX per-CPU initialization after updates Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:33 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 15/22] x86/virt/tdx: Restore TDX module state Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:37 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 16/22] x86/virt/tdx: Update tdx_sysinfo and check features post-update Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:43 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 17/22] x86/virt/tdx: Avoid updates during update-sensitive operations Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:00 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20 8:00 ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 18/22] coco/tdx-host: Don't expose P-SEAMLDR features on CPUs with erratum Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:02 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 19/22] x86/virt/tdx: Enable TDX module runtime updates Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:03 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 20/22] coco/tdx-host: Document TDX module update compatibility criteria Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:04 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 21/22] x86/virt/tdx: Document TDX module update Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:05 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 22/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Log TDX module update failures Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:06 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20 8:31 ` Chao Gao
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