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From: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Joshua Rogers" <linux@joshua.hu>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/24] serial: 8250: don't wait for the em485 timers locked
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 13:39:34 +0200 (EET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c53e055a-b2c4-9360-41e4-dfbe757c86d4@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261027-tty-llm-v1-3-99b0202ae546@linuxfoundation.org>

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On Tue, 27 Oct 2026, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:

> From: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
> 
> serial8250_em485_destroy() is called with the port lock held and
> interrupts off, from ->rs485_config() and from
> serial8250_unregister_port().  It calls hrtimer_cancel(), which waits
> for a handler which is running, and both handlers start by taking the
> port lock:
> 
>   CPU0                                  CPU1
>   ioctl(TIOCSRS485), rs485 off
>   uart_set_rs485_config()
>     uart_port_lock_irqsave()            serial8250_em485_handle_stop_tx()
>     serial8250_em485_config()             uart_port_lock_irqsave()
>       serial8250_em485_destroy()            spins
>         hrtimer_cancel()
>           spins
> 
> All it takes is to turn RS485 off right after the end of a transmission,
> when the timer for delay_rts_after_send expires.
> 
> The handlers do nothing unless em485->active_timer points to their
> timer, so it is enough to clear that pointer.  What cannot be done with
> the lock held is to free the structure: hrtimer_try_to_cancel() fails
> for a timer whose handler is running, even if it has been started again
> in the meantime.  So keep the structure in the port when RS485 is turned
> off, use it again when RS485 is turned on, and free it when the port is
> unregistered, where the timers can be waited for without the lock.
> 
> A port on which RS485 emulation has been used once keeps the structure,
> about 150 bytes, until it is unregistered.
> 
> Fixes: 6e0a5de2136b ("serial: 8250: Use hrtimers for rs485 delays")
> Cc: stable <stable@kernel.org>
> Cc: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
> Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
> Cc: Hugo Villeneuve <hvilleneuve@dimonoff.com>
> Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)" <u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com>
> Cc: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Tate Whiteberg <whiteberg@arista.com>
> Cc: Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
> Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
> Cc: Crescent Hsieh <crescentcy.hsieh@moxa.com>
> Cc: Fushuai Wang <wangfushuai@baidu.com>
> Cc: Rafael Gago Castano <rgc@hms.se>
> Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
> Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> ---
>  drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250.h      |  1 +
>  drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_core.c |  5 +---
>  drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_port.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>  include/linux/serial_8250.h         |  1 +
>  4 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250.h b/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250.h
> index 21ed9c41b751..82a3b8359643 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250.h
> +++ b/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250.h
> @@ -235,6 +235,7 @@ int serial8250_em485_config(struct uart_port *port, struct ktermios *termios,
>  void serial8250_em485_start_tx(struct uart_8250_port *p, bool toggle_ier);
>  void serial8250_em485_stop_tx(struct uart_8250_port *p, bool toggle_ier);
>  void serial8250_em485_destroy(struct uart_8250_port *p);
> +void serial8250_em485_free(struct uart_8250_port *p);
>  extern struct serial_rs485 serial8250_em485_supported;
>  
>  /* MCR <-> TIOCM conversion */
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_core.c b/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_core.c
> index 42319843cb5b..0951d3e42e1f 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_core.c
> +++ b/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_core.c
> @@ -947,10 +947,7 @@ void serial8250_unregister_port(struct uart_8250_port *uart)
>  {
>  	guard(mutex)(&serial_mutex);
>  
> -	if (uart->em485) {
> -		guard(uart_port_lock_irqsave)(&uart->port);
> -		serial8250_em485_destroy(uart);
> -	}
> +	serial8250_em485_free(uart);
>  
>  	uart_remove_one_port(&serial8250_reg, &uart->port);
>  	if (serial8250_isa_devs) {
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_port.c b/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_port.c
> index 36b2b0a2c05c..3d47f535d6f1 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_port.c
> +++ b/drivers/tty/serial/8250/8250_port.c
> @@ -574,15 +574,22 @@ static int serial8250_em485_init(struct uart_8250_port *p)
>  	if (p->em485)
>  		goto deassert_rts;
>  
> -	p->em485 = kmalloc_obj(struct uart_8250_em485, GFP_ATOMIC);
> -	if (!p->em485)
> -		return -ENOMEM;
> +	if (p->em485_idle) {
> +		p->em485 = p->em485_idle;
> +		p->em485_idle = NULL;
> +	} else {
> +		p->em485 = kmalloc_obj(struct uart_8250_em485, GFP_ATOMIC);
> +		if (!p->em485)
> +			return -ENOMEM;
>  
> -	hrtimer_setup(&p->em485->stop_tx_timer, &serial8250_em485_handle_stop_tx, CLOCK_MONOTONIC,
> -		      HRTIMER_MODE_REL);
> -	hrtimer_setup(&p->em485->start_tx_timer, &serial8250_em485_handle_start_tx, CLOCK_MONOTONIC,
> -		      HRTIMER_MODE_REL);
> -	p->em485->port = p;
> +		hrtimer_setup(&p->em485->stop_tx_timer,
> +			      &serial8250_em485_handle_stop_tx, CLOCK_MONOTONIC,
> +			      HRTIMER_MODE_REL);
> +		hrtimer_setup(&p->em485->start_tx_timer,
> +			      &serial8250_em485_handle_start_tx, CLOCK_MONOTONIC,
> +			      HRTIMER_MODE_REL);
> +		p->em485->port = p;
> +	}
>  	p->em485->active_timer = NULL;
>  	p->em485->tx_stopped = true;
>  
> @@ -604,6 +611,11 @@ static int serial8250_em485_init(struct uart_8250_port *p)
>   *	The function is supposed to be called from .rs485_config callback
>   *	or from any other callback protected with p->port.lock spinlock.
>   *
> + *	The handlers of the timers take that lock, so they cannot be waited for
> + *	here. One which is running does nothing, as no timer is active any more.
> + *	The memory is kept for the next serial8250_em485_init() and freed by
> + *	serial8250_em485_free().
> + *
>   *	See also serial8250_em485_init()
>   */
>  void serial8250_em485_destroy(struct uart_8250_port *p)
> @@ -611,14 +623,40 @@ void serial8250_em485_destroy(struct uart_8250_port *p)
>  	if (!p->em485)
>  		return;
>  
> -	hrtimer_cancel(&p->em485->start_tx_timer);
> -	hrtimer_cancel(&p->em485->stop_tx_timer);
> +	hrtimer_try_to_cancel(&p->em485->start_tx_timer);
> +	hrtimer_try_to_cancel(&p->em485->stop_tx_timer);
> +	p->em485->active_timer = NULL;
>  
> -	kfree(p->em485);
> +	p->em485_idle = p->em485;
>  	p->em485 = NULL;
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(serial8250_em485_destroy);

The name is pretty misleading after this change when all it now does is 
stop timers.

--
 i.

>  
> +/**
> + *	serial8250_em485_free() - release the rs485 emulation of a port
> + *	@p:	uart_8250_port port instance
> + *
> + *	Must be called without p->port.lock, as it waits for the timers.
> + */
> +void serial8250_em485_free(struct uart_8250_port *p)
> +{
> +	struct uart_8250_em485 *em485;
> +
> +	scoped_guard(uart_port_lock_irqsave, &p->port) {
> +		serial8250_em485_destroy(p);
> +		em485 = p->em485_idle;
> +		p->em485_idle = NULL;
> +	}
> +
> +	if (!em485)
> +		return;
> +
> +	hrtimer_cancel(&em485->start_tx_timer);
> +	hrtimer_cancel(&em485->stop_tx_timer);
> +	kfree(em485);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(serial8250_em485_free);
> +
>  struct serial_rs485 serial8250_em485_supported = {
>  	.flags = SER_RS485_ENABLED | SER_RS485_RTS_ON_SEND | SER_RS485_RTS_AFTER_SEND |
>  		 SER_RS485_TERMINATE_BUS | SER_RS485_RX_DURING_TX,
> diff --git a/include/linux/serial_8250.h b/include/linux/serial_8250.h
> index d91c0477be9d..0556bb722db4 100644
> --- a/include/linux/serial_8250.h
> +++ b/include/linux/serial_8250.h
> @@ -173,6 +173,7 @@ struct uart_8250_port {
>  	void			(*dl_write)(struct uart_8250_port *up, u32 value);
>  
>  	struct uart_8250_em485 *em485;
> +	struct uart_8250_em485 *em485_idle;	/* kept while rs485 is off */
>  	void			(*rs485_start_tx)(struct uart_8250_port *up, bool toggle_ier);
>  	void			(*rs485_stop_tx)(struct uart_8250_port *up, bool toggle_ier);
>  
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-27 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-27 11:06 [PATCH 00/24] tty/serial: a bunch of llm-found fixes Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 01/24] vt: serialise the producers of the flip buffer Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 02/24] serial: core: respect runtime PM when sending x_char Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 03/24] serial: 8250: don't wait for the em485 timers locked Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:39   ` Ilpo Järvinen [this message]
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 04/24] serial: 8250: don't report a wakeup to a closed tty Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:43   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 05/24] serial: 8250: clear subdriver state on port unregister Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:16   ` Jiri Slaby
2026-10-27 15:28     ` James Hilliard
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 06/24] serial: 8250: add bounds check for line array in setup_serial() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:57   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 07/24] serial: 8250: hold hash_mutex across irq_info lookup and linking Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:00   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 08/24] serial: 8250: cancel overrun backoff work on port shutdown and unregister Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:15   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 09/24] serial: 8250: 8250_bcm7271: fix DMA address truncation to 32 bits Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:18   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 15:10   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 16:41     ` Florian Fainelli
2026-10-27 17:14       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 17:19         ` Florian Fainelli
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 10/24] serial: 8250: pericom: validate port offset against BAR length Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 15:13   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 11/24] serial: 8250: cap OxSemi Tornado UART count against BAR size Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:23   ` Jiri Slaby
2026-10-27 11:33     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:24   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 14:29   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-10-27 15:23     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 12/24] serial: 8250: dfl: add bounds check for device-provided regshift Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 15:36   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 13/24] serial: 8250: dfl: validate MMIO resource size and regshift Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:30   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 15:38   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 14/24] serial: 8250: ioc3: store registered line number in driver data Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:38   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 13:10     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 15/24] serial: 8250: omap: acquire rx_dma_lock in DMA completion callback Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:52   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 16/24] serial: 8250_lpss: don't divide by 0 above 6.25 Mbaud Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 17/24] serial: 8250_mxpcie: handle hangup during break Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 18/24] serial: fsl_lpuart: fix tty ref of wakeup event Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 19/24] serial: imx: fix the tty reference of the " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 20/24] serial: rda: free the interrupt on shutdown Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 12:38   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 21/24] serial: samsung: don't leak the tty on an RX IRQ Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 22/24] serial: samsung: put the previous baud clock Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 23/24] serial: st-asc: don't report a wakeup to a closed tty Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 15:51   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 11:06 ` [PATCH 24/24] serial: stm32: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 13:02   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2026-10-27 15:06 ` [PATCH 00/24] tty/serial: a bunch of llm-found fixes Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-27 15:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-27 16:32     ` Andy Shevchenko

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