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From: Imre Kaloz <kaloz@kernel.org>
To: Andreas Larsson <andreas@gaisler.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	 "Mike Rapoport (IBM)" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] sparc64: flush only the aliased page, not its whole folio
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 21:26:47 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c74a2d45-2267-b380-c7fe-b6a2d3f8251b@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61ab29d3-929f-49de-bb64-5a49318ede00@gaisler.com>

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Hi Andreas,

On Thu, 15 Oct 2026, Andreas Larsson wrote:

> On 2026-09-28 15:21, Imre Kaloz wrote:
>> Since the conversion to folios, move_pte() and tlb_batch_add() flush the
>> D-cache of every page in the folio a single PTE maps.  Both run once per
>> PTE, so moving or unmapping a range backed by a large folio flushes each
>> of its pages once for every PTE of that folio, and each page flush is a
>> cross-call to all other online CPUs.
>
> It would be good if the description of what the patch does uses present
> tense, but past tense for what was wrong before the patch, or was
> otherwise reworded to make it clear.

Will do.

> The cross-call overhead is not true for all sparc64 machines and only
> for SMP configurations.

Right, it's only on SMP and only on sun4u CPUs whose D-cache can alias;
on sun4v flush_dcache_folio_all() returns right away. I'll say so.

>> Only the page the PTE maps can hold lines at the old colour, so flush
>> just that page, as before the conversion.  flush_dcache_folio_all() has
>> no other users and becomes flush_dcache_page_all() again.
>
> This could perhaps be a bit misleading, as multiple PTEs in the range
> handled by the caller can hold the old colour, could it not? Rather it
> is the traversing of the whole range one by one in the caller that does
> the trick. What do you aim to add to the previous description with this
> paragraph?

You're right. What I wanted to say is that flushing the page each PTE
maps is enough because the caller walks the range one PTE at a time, so
every page gets its own flush. I'll reword it that way.

>> On SMP QEMU guests, apt rebuilding its caches through mremap() triggers
>> RCU stalls and soft lockups in move_pte().
>
> Past tense or rewording here as well as this patch fixes this.

Will do.

<snip>

>> diff --git a/arch/sparc/include/asm/pgtable_64.h b/arch/sparc/include/asm/pgtable_64.h
>> index 0837ebbc5dce..6712eac4baf1 100644
>> --- a/arch/sparc/include/asm/pgtable_64.h
>> +++ b/arch/sparc/include/asm/pgtable_64.h
>> @@ -946,6 +946,9 @@ static inline void set_ptes(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr,
>>  	set_pte_at((mm), (addr), (ptep), __pte(0UL))
>>
>>  #ifdef DCACHE_ALIASING_POSSIBLE
>> +/* Without pte_batch_hint(), move_ptes() calls this once per PTE, so
>> + * only the page this PTE maps can have lines at the old colour.
>> + */
>
> I'm not ecstatic about implementing a function that in the general API
> can be called for multiple ptes, even though this never happens on
> sparc64 as things stands right now. The code paths that saves us, from
> commit 0b5be138ce00 ("mm/mremap: avoid expensive folio lookup on mremap
> folio pte batch"), was "only" added as a performance regression fix.
>
> Perhaps the best logical solution would be if move_pte() got an added nr
> argument just as get_and_clear_ptes() has.
>
> Barring that, the comment should not describe why the change is ok, but
> rather descrive the code as it stands after this patch, that it depends
> on only being called for single pte's, and that this is accomplished by
> using the default pte_batch_hint().
>
> I would prefer the nr argument though, but that would go outside
> arch/sparc. Comments from mm people on this would be great.
>

I'll rewrite the comment that way.

I like the nr idea. Since sparc64 is the only user of move_pte(), it
would be a small change: move_ptes() would pass nr_ptes, the generic
version would ignore it, and sparc64 would flush every aliased page in
the batch. I’d still keep it as a separate patch on top of this one,
though, so the fix can go to stable as a plain sparc64 backport.

Matthew, Mike, Andrew, would you be fine with move_pte() taking nr?


Thanks,
Imre

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-15 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 13:21 [PATCH v2 0/2] sparc64: D-cache alias flushing fixes Imre Kaloz
2026-09-28 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] sparc64: flush only the aliased page, not its whole folio Imre Kaloz
2026-10-15 14:46   ` Andreas Larsson
2026-10-15 19:26     ` Imre Kaloz [this message]
2026-09-28 13:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] sparc64: flush vmalloc ranges from the D-cache on map and unmap Imre Kaloz
2026-10-11  9:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] sparc64: D-cache alias flushing fixes John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

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