From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932285AbWGLSHK (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:07:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932284AbWGLSHK (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:07:10 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com ([66.249.82.202]:43225 "EHLO wx-out-0102.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932285AbWGLSHI (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:07:08 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VC+HIQYVR7zIdqNTCqU0LVVWJf6iwZI/hvQIjDAszVnrbTpiXPBhgytHln86TDBETLyJs4NdiBJAnHcz6cMW/U8QbpO8KO8D1AZujN3Id9sZitYqUJxMiGP5UULDdstRFEPqaxRzMFqu4sNCkQ74Y1x58ZBfbO1CiY0I3YLA2XM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:07:07 -0400 From: "Johnny Lever" To: "Arjan van de Ven" Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] PCI-Express AER implemetation: AER core and aerdriver Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1152725562.3217.62.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1152725562.3217.62.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >Demanding that these > companies then also allow that same code to be used by other companies > who do not give anything back to Linux... is just really bad for Linux > both in the short and the long term. > This is a quite questionable theory and a narrow minded perspective. Saying companies that write binary drivers for Linux don't give back anything is not factual - they offer many people a possibility to use Linux where in the absence of those drivers they would have been forced to use something else, 100% proprietary. In short they offer Linux a percentage of its user base. Reducing possibilities is never a good idea - especially when it comes to users, it does hurt them as much as it hurts you to see a EXPORT_SYMBOL without a GPL in it - and there is no reason why it isn't ok to hurt you but the users can be hurt freely. If it was so impossible and questionable to write binary drivers, they all would have been disappeared by now. They are still out there, people use them. > > good thing you're using a fake gmail account instead of your own name, > it means it's just a very obvious troll attempt.... Yeah whatever, my real name is not as important as the topic at hand. That's just your personal opinion/logic to translate/label it as a troll. And I do apologize for saying Dimwits. Johnny