From: Werner Sembach <wse@tuxedocomputers.com>
To: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>,
ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com, hdegoede@redhat.com,
chumuzero@gmail.com, corbet@lwn.net, cs@tuxedo.de,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] platform/x86: Add Uniwill laptop driver
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 21:13:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb7d0111-927f-40fe-b0f7-73e3a5136746@tuxedocomputers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8cffb232-052a-4eff-84ea-af6254b837f9@tuxedocomputers.com>
Am 09.09.25 um 11:18 schrieb Werner Sembach:
> Hi,
>
> Am 08.09.25 um 18:29 schrieb Armin Wolf:
>>>> +static ssize_t fn_lock_show(struct device *dev, struct device_attribute
>>>> *attr, char *buf)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct uniwill_data *data = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>> + unsigned int value;
>>>> + int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + ret = regmap_read(data->regmap, EC_ADDR_BIOS_OEM, &value);
>>>> + if (ret < 0)
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + return sysfs_emit(buf, "%s\n", str_enable_disable(value &
>>>> FN_LOCK_STATUS));
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +static DEVICE_ATTR_RW(fn_lock);
>>>
>>> The fn_lock register value does not automatically get updated by pressing
>>> the fn+esc key (unlicke the super_key_lock), so the driver needs to do that
>>> manually.
>>>
>>> Another posibility is: uniwill sometimes have a "config" and an "immediate"
>>> value for a setting, waybe we have the config value here (and have the
>>> immediate value for the super_key_lock)
>>>
>>> Also I realized: The value here is preserved on hot, but not on cold
>>> reboots, maybe this should be initialized by the driver for consistency?
>>>
>> fn_lock should not change when the users presses Fn + ESC, instead this
>> setting controls whether the EC will enter Fn lock mode when the user presses
>> this key combination.
>
> At least on my device Fn + ESC does toggle the Fn lock regardless of this
> setting. How I love these Uniwill inconsistencies ...
>
> I talked with Christoffer and he said that the "Intel Project" line from
> Uniwill does behave differently at multiple locations
>
> If the devices really behave differently we have the first mutually exclusive
> feature here: FN Lock Enable vs FN Lock Toggle
Thinking about how to name this to make it consistent and clear by name only
what is happening, my idea would be:
- fn_lock_toggle_enable (for the behavior on your device)
- fn_lock_enable (for the behavior on my devices)
- super_key_toggle_enable (for the behavior on your device)
- super_key_enable (for the behavior on my devices)
- touchpad_toggle_enable (for the behavior on your device)
There is no touchpad_enable as this is handled by userspace.
>
>> Additionally, some models seem to allow users to change those settings inside
>> the BIOS itself, so i am against overwriting the
>> boot configuration when loading the driver.
> That's probably what's sets the value on cold boot.
>>>> +static ssize_t super_key_lock_show(struct device *dev, struct
>>>> device_attribute *attr, char *buf)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct uniwill_data *data = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>> + unsigned int value;
>>>> + int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + ret = regmap_read(data->regmap, EC_ADDR_SWITCH_STATUS, &value);
>>>> + if (ret < 0)
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + return sysfs_emit(buf, "%s\n", str_enable_disable(!(value &
>>>> SUPER_KEY_LOCK_STATUS)));
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +static DEVICE_ATTR_RW(super_key_lock);
>>>
>>> I did not know what "super_key_lock" was supposed to mean at first, a more
>>> fitting name would be super_key_enable imho.
>>>
>>> Cold vs hot reboot volatility not tested, but wouldn't hurt to initialize
>>> imho as i don't trust uniwill to be consistent in this point across multiple
>>> device generations.
>>>
>> This sysfs attribute controls whether or not the super key can be locked
>> using a key combination i forgot about. Initializing those settings
>> is something best done by userspace, i suggest to use a udev rule for that.
>
> No again, at least on the devices i have here: the key combination is fn+f9,
> but not present on all devides (the fn functions get shifted quite around on
> different uniwill devices anyway)
>
> The combination still works when this is set to disable and just sets it to
> enable.
>
>>
>>>> +
>>>> +static ssize_t touchpad_toggle_store(struct device *dev, struct
>>>> device_attribute *attr,
>>>> + const char *buf, size_t count)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct uniwill_data *data = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>> + unsigned int value;
>>>> + int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + ret = sysfs_match_string(uniwill_enable_disable_strings, buf);
>>>> + if (ret < 0)
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (ret)
>>>> + value = 0;
>>>> + else
>>>> + value = TOUCHPAD_TOGGLE_OFF;
>>>> +
>>>> + ret = regmap_update_bits(data->regmap, EC_ADDR_OEM_4,
>>>> TOUCHPAD_TOGGLE_OFF, value);
>>>> + if (ret < 0)
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + return count;
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +static ssize_t touchpad_toggle_show(struct device *dev, struct
>>>> device_attribute *attr, char *buf)
>>>> +{
>>>> + struct uniwill_data *data = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>> + unsigned int value;
>>>> + int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + ret = regmap_read(data->regmap, EC_ADDR_OEM_4, &value);
>>>> + if (ret < 0)
>>>> + return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + return sysfs_emit(buf, "%s\n", str_enable_disable(!(value &
>>>> TOUCHPAD_TOGGLE_OFF)));
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +static DEVICE_ATTR_RW(touchpad_toggle);
>>> What exactly does this do? Seems like a noop on my testing devices. Also is
>>> touchpad disable not already handled by userspace?
>>
>> This settings controls whether or not the user can disable the internal
>> touchpad using a specific key combination.
>
> Ok, this function seems to be not present on non Intel project devices from
> Uniwill. Here the touchpad toggle just sends a key combination (Super +
> Control + KEY_ZENKAKUHANKAKU or F24 depending on kernel version) and lets
> userspace handle the rest.
>
> Never mind then.
>
>>>> +static const struct hwmon_ops uniwill_ops = {
>>>> + .visible = 0444,
>>>> + .read = uniwill_read,
>>>> + .read_string = uniwill_read_string,
>>>> +};
>>>
>>> .visible should hide gpu temp sensor on devices that don't have a dgpu and
>>> therefore not gpu temp sensor (the value is stuck at 0 on these devices)
>>>
>>> also the number of fan might also not always be exactly 2
>>>
>> I see, i will introduce separate feature flags for each sensor.
> thanks
>>>> +static int __init uniwill_init(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> + const struct dmi_system_id *id;
>>>> + int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + id = dmi_first_match(uniwill_dmi_table);
>>>> + if (!id) {
>>>> + if (!force)
>>>> + return -ENODEV;
>>>> +
>>>> + /* Assume that the device supports all features */
>>>> + supported_features = UINT_MAX;
>>>
>>> in the future there might be mutually exclusive feature (for example when
>>> Uniwil repurposes EC registers)
>>>
>>> my suggestion would be to have a "force_supported_features" in addition that
>>> overwrites the supported_features list (also for devices that are in the list)
>>>
>>> so something like:
>>>
>>> if (!id && !force)
>>>
>>> return -ENODEV
>>>
>>> if (force)
>>>
>>> supported_features = force_supported_features
>>>
>>> else
>>>
>>> supported_features = (uintptr_t)id->driver_data;
>>>
>> Interesting idea, but i would prefer to keep the individual feature bit
>> definitions private. Because of this i suggest we
>> look into this idea once we actually encounter such a situation where we have
>> conflicting feature bits.
>
> Then maybe just have all the features as separate module parameters?
>
> On this note: Maybe also do the FN Key handling based on a feature bit? Not
> that i see a particular reason why you wouldn't want to have it, but for
> consistency and debugging reasons (and also if sometimes ins the future an
> incompatibility arises here because Uniwill repurposed a wmi event or something).
>
> Just thinking out loud.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Armin Wolf
>
> Best regards,
>
> Werner
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-09 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-31 19:27 [PATCH v3 0/2] Add support for Uniwill laptop features Armin Wolf
2025-08-31 19:27 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] platform/x86: Add Uniwill laptop driver Armin Wolf
2025-09-03 17:08 ` Werner Sembach
2025-09-05 18:46 ` Armin Wolf
2025-09-09 8:49 ` Werner Sembach
2025-09-18 21:20 ` Armin Wolf
2025-09-22 15:57 ` Werner Sembach
2025-09-05 14:05 ` Werner Sembach
2025-09-08 16:29 ` Armin Wolf
2025-09-09 9:18 ` Werner Sembach
2025-09-09 19:13 ` Werner Sembach [this message]
2025-09-18 21:25 ` Armin Wolf
2025-09-22 16:03 ` Werner Sembach
2025-08-31 19:27 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Documentation: laptops: Add documentation for uniwill laptops Armin Wolf
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