From: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
To: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>
Cc: Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>,
peterz@infradead.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ionela.voinescu@arm.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM / EM: Inefficient OPPs detection
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 16:32:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cc9d7743-7795-a9c9-c1fb-4162cb02bfe2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YHhZrbLcUD6I83m1@google.com>
Hi Quentin,
On 4/15/21 4:20 PM, Quentin Perret wrote:
> On Thursday 15 Apr 2021 at 16:14:46 (+0100), Vincent Donnefort wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 02:59:54PM +0000, Quentin Perret wrote:
>>> On Thursday 15 Apr 2021 at 15:34:53 (+0100), Vincent Donnefort wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 01:16:35PM +0000, Quentin Perret wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday 08 Apr 2021 at 18:10:29 (+0100), Vincent Donnefort wrote:
>>>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
>>>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
>>>>>> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #include "sched.h"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +#include <linux/energy_model.h>
>>>>>> #include <linux/sched/cpufreq.h>
>>>>>> #include <trace/events/power.h>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @@ -164,6 +165,9 @@ static unsigned int get_next_freq(struct sugov_policy *sg_policy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> freq = map_util_freq(util, freq, max);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + /* Avoid inefficient performance states */
>>>>>> + freq = em_pd_get_efficient_freq(em_cpu_get(policy->cpu), freq);
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember this was discussed when Douglas sent his patches some time
>>>>> ago, but I still find it sad we index the EM table here but still
>>>>> re-index the cpufreq frequency table later :/
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes in your case this lookup is very inexpensive, but still. EAS relies
>>>>> on the EM's table matching cpufreq's accurately, so this second lookup
>>>>> still feels rather unnecessary ...
>>>>
>>>> To get only a single lookup, we would need to bring the inefficiency knowledge
>>>> directly to the cpufreq framework. But it has its own limitations:
>>>>
>>>> The cpufreq driver can have its own resolve_freq() callback, which means that
>>>> not all the drivers would benefit from that feature.
>>>>
>>>> The cpufreq_table can be ordered and accessed in several ways which brings
>>>> many combinations that would need to be supported, ending-up with something
>>>> much more intrusive. (We can though decide to limit the feature to the low to
>>>> high access that schedutil needs).
>>>>
>>>> As the EM needs schedutil to exist anyway, it seemed to be the right place for
>>>> this code. It allows any cpufreq driver to benefit from the feature, simplify a
>>>> potential extension for a usage by devfreq devices and as a bonus it speeds-up
>>>> energy computing, allowing a more complex Energy Model.
>>>
>>> I was thinking of something a bit simpler. cpufreq_driver_resolve_freq
>>> appears to be used only from schedutil (why is it even then?), so we
>>> could just pull it into cpufreq_schedutil.c and just plain skip the call
>>> to cpufreq_frequency_table_target if the target freq has been indexed in
>>> the EM table -- it should already be matching a real OPP.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Quentin
>>
>> Can try that for a V2. That means em_pd_get_efficient_freq() would have to
>> know about policy clamping (but I don't think that's an issue)
>
> Indeed, and I think we can even see this as an improvement as EAS will
> now see policy clamps as well in compute_energy().
Are you sure that the 'policy' can be accessed from compute_energy()?
It can be from schedutil freq switch path, but I'm not use about our
feec()..
For me this cpufreq_driver_resolve_freq sounds a bit out of this patch
subject.
Regards,
Lukasz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-15 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-08 17:10 Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-08 17:10 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-15 13:12 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-15 14:12 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-15 15:04 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-15 15:27 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-22 15:36 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-23 16:14 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-28 14:46 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-05-20 11:12 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-15 13:16 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-15 14:34 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-15 14:59 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-15 15:05 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-15 15:14 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-15 15:20 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-15 15:32 ` Lukasz Luba [this message]
2021-04-15 15:43 ` Quentin Perret
2021-04-28 13:28 ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-04-22 17:26 ` Lukasz Luba
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