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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, ljs@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
	shakeel.butt@linux.dev, vbabka@kernel.org, jannh@google.com,
	aliceryhl@google.com, arve@android.com, cmllamas@google.com,
	christian@brauner.io, tkjos@android.com, dsahern@kernel.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/5] mm: Make per-VMA locks available universally
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 17:20:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cc9eeb0b-e4bb-437c-bca4-981d6d595ef0@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpEFmf0V0OuAkEPSpzYA-WScAjmNg2b6CJg7Z3WH9h6Qdg@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/10/26 16:50, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 3:09 AM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/31/26 22:30, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>> From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
>>>
>>> The per-VMA locks have been around for several years. They've had some
>>> bugs worked out of them and have seen quite wide use. However, they
>>> are still only available when architectures explicitly enable them.
>>> Remove the conditional compilation around the per-VMA locks, making
>>> them available on all architectures and configs.
>>>
>>> The approach up to now seemed to be to add ARCH_SUPPORTS_PER_VMA_LOCK
>>> when the architecture started using per-VMA locks in the fault
>>> handler. But, contrary to the naming, the Kconfig option does not
>>> really indicate whether the architecture supports per-VMA locks or
>>> not. It is more of a marker for whether the architecture is likely to
>>> benefit from per-VMA locks.
>>>
>>> To me, the most important thing side-effect of universal availability
>>> is letting per-VMA locks be used in SMP=n configs. This lets us use
>>> per-VMA locking in all x86 code without fallbacks.
>>>
>>> Overall, this just generally makes the kernel simpler. Just look at
>>> the diffstat. It also opens the door to users that want to use the
>>> per-VMA locks in common code. Doing *that* brings additional
>>> simplifications.
>>>
>>> The downside of this is adding some fields to vm_area_struct and
>>> mm_struct. There are likely ways to optimize this, especially for
>>> things like SMP=n configs. For now, do the simplest thing: use the
>>> same implementation everywhere.
>>>
>>> == Considerations for NOMMU config ==
>>
>> Echoing what I commented on v6 after v7 was already sent (not realizing there
>> was a v7 after my inbox got flooded)
>>
>> Maybe the NOMMU "support" could have been had in a separate prep patch (where a
>> lot of the description below could have been moved), making the patch itself
>> just mostly a removal of code.
> 
> Yeah, that would make reviewing indeed easier. I guess current
> structure is the result of me adding NOMMU pieces to the pre-existing
> patchset. I don't think it's worth refactoring but I can do that if
> you insist.

I won't insist, it was just commenting because it would cleanly separate the
NOMMU oddity from just unlocking it in common code and removing the leftovers :)

-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-31 20:30 [PATCH v7 0/5] mm: Unconditional per-VMA locks and cleanups Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-31 20:30 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] mm: Make per-VMA locks available universally Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 10:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 14:50     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-10 15:20       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-08-31 20:30 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] binder: Make shrinker rely solely on per-VMA lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-31 20:30 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] mm: Add RCU-based VMA lookup helper that waits for writers Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-31 20:30 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] binder: Remove mmap_lock fallback Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-08-31 20:30 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] tcp: Remove mmap_lock fallback path Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-01  7:37   ` Paolo Abeni

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