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From: Luben Tuikov <luben.tuikov@amd.com>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>, Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rob Clark" <robdclark@chromium.org>,
	"Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo@padovan.org>,
	"Tvrtko Ursulin" <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>,
	"Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"open list:SYNC FILE FRAMEWORK" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/14] dma-buf/sync_file: Support (E)POLLPRI
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:48:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cdd5f892-49b9-1e22-4dc1-95a8a733c453@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGv9fLQCD65ytRTGp=EkNB1QoZYH5ArphgGQALV9J08Cmw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2023-02-20 11:14, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:53 AM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 13:15:49 -0800
>> Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Rob Clark <robdclark@chromium.org>
>>>
>>> Allow userspace to use the EPOLLPRI/POLLPRI flag to indicate an urgent
>>> wait (as opposed to a "housekeeping" wait to know when to cleanup after
>>> some work has completed).  Usermode components of GPU driver stacks
>>> often poll() on fence fd's to know when it is safe to do things like
>>> free or reuse a buffer, but they can also poll() on a fence fd when
>>> waiting to read back results from the GPU.  The EPOLLPRI/POLLPRI flag
>>> lets the kernel differentiate these two cases.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Rob Clark <robdclark@chromium.org>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> where would the UAPI documentation of this go?
>> It seems to be missing.
> 
> Good question, I am not sure.  The poll() man page has a description,
> but my usage doesn't fit that _exactly_ (but OTOH the description is a
> bit vague).
> 
>> If a Wayland compositor is polling application fences to know which
>> client buffer to use in its rendering, should the compositor poll with
>> PRI or not? If a compositor polls with PRI, then all fences from all
>> applications would always be PRI. Would that be harmful somehow or
>> would it be beneficial?
> 
> I think a compositor would rather use the deadline ioctl and then poll
> without PRI.  Otherwise you are giving an urgency signal to the fence
> signaller which might not necessarily be needed.
> 
> The places where I expect PRI to be useful is more in mesa (things
> like glFinish(), readpix, and other similar sorts of blocking APIs)
Hi,

Hmm, but then user-space could do the opposite, namely, submit work as usual--never 
using the SET_DEADLINE ioctl, and then at the end, poll using (E)POLLPRI. That seems
like a possible usage pattern, unintended--maybe, but possible. Do we want to discourage
this? Wouldn't SET_DEADLINE be enough? I mean, one can call SET_DEADLINE with the current
time, and then wouldn't that be equivalent to (E)POLLPRI?
-- 
Regards,
Luben


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-18 21:15 [PATCH v4 00/14] dma-fence: Deadline awareness Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] dma-buf/dma-fence: Add deadline awareness Rob Clark
2023-02-22 10:23   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-22 15:28     ` Christian König
2023-02-22 17:04       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-22 17:16         ` Rob Clark
2023-02-22 17:33           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-22 18:57             ` Rob Clark
2023-02-22 11:01   ` Luben Tuikov
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] dma-buf/fence-array: Add fence deadline support Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] dma-buf/fence-chain: " Rob Clark
2023-02-22 10:27   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-22 15:55     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] dma-buf/dma-resv: Add a way to set fence deadline Rob Clark
2023-02-20  8:16   ` Christian König
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] dma-buf/sync_file: Add SET_DEADLINE ioctl Rob Clark
2023-02-20  8:27   ` Christian König
2023-02-20 16:09     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-21  8:41       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-23  9:19       ` Christian König
2023-02-20  8:48   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] dma-buf/sync_file: Support (E)POLLPRI Rob Clark
2023-02-20  8:31   ` Christian König
2023-02-21  8:38     ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-20  8:53   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-20 16:14     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-21  8:37       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-21 16:01         ` Sebastian Wick
2023-02-21 17:55           ` Rob Clark
2023-02-21 16:48       ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2023-02-21 17:53         ` Rob Clark
2023-02-22  9:49           ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-22 10:26             ` Luben Tuikov
2023-02-22 15:37             ` Rob Clark
2023-02-23  9:38               ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-23 18:51                 ` Rob Clark
2023-02-24  9:26                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-24  9:41                     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-24 10:24                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-24 10:50                         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-24 11:00                           ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-24 11:37                             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-24 15:26                               ` Luben Tuikov
2023-02-24 17:59                                 ` Rob Clark
2023-02-27 21:35                                   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2023-02-27 22:20                                     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-27 22:44                                       ` Sebastian Wick
2023-02-27 23:48                                         ` Rob Clark
2023-02-28 14:30                                           ` Sebastian Wick
2023-02-28 22:52                                             ` Rob Clark
2023-03-01 15:31                                               ` Sebastian Wick
2023-03-01 16:02                                                 ` Rob Clark
2023-03-01 15:45                                       ` Rodrigo Vivi
2023-02-24 16:59                         ` Rob Clark
2023-02-24 19:44                         ` Rob Clark
2023-02-27  9:34                           ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-27 18:43                             ` Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] dma-buf/sw_sync: Add fence deadline support Rob Clark
2023-02-20  8:29   ` Christian König
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] drm/scheduler: " Rob Clark
2023-02-21 19:40   ` Luben Tuikov
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] drm/syncobj: Add deadline support for syncobj waits Rob Clark
2023-02-19 16:09   ` Rob Clark
2023-02-20  9:05   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-20 16:20     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-24  9:51   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] drm/vblank: Add helper to get next vblank time Rob Clark
2023-02-20  9:08   ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-20 15:55     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-21  8:45       ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-21 13:01         ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-02-21 13:11           ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-21 13:42             ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-02-21 17:50           ` Rob Clark
2023-02-22  9:57             ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-02-22 15:44               ` Rob Clark
2023-02-22 15:55                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-02-21 19:54           ` Rob Clark
2023-02-21 21:39             ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-02-21 21:48               ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-02-21 22:28                 ` [Freedreno] " Rob Clark
2023-02-21 22:46                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2023-02-21 23:20                     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-21 23:25                       ` Rob Clark
2023-02-22 10:37   ` Luben Tuikov
2023-02-22 15:48     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] drm/atomic-helper: Set fence deadline for vblank Rob Clark
2023-02-22 10:46   ` Luben Tuikov
2023-02-22 15:50     ` Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] drm/msm: Add deadline based boost support Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] drm/msm: Add wait-boost support Rob Clark
2023-02-18 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] drm/i915: Add deadline based boost support Rob Clark
2023-02-20 15:46   ` Tvrtko Ursulin

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