From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>, Tao Xu <tao3.xu@intel.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com,
jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:39:03 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce2dfc44-d1cf-8d09-6a38-9befb6f65885@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTpW3M8Iyh8kLpyx@google.com>
On 9/10/2021 2:47 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2021, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>> On 9/3/2021 12:29 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>> After syncing internally, we know that the internal threshold is not
>>>> architectural but a model-specific value. It will be published in some place
>>>> in future.
>>>
>>> Any chance it will also be discoverable, e.g. via an MSR?
>>
>> I also hope we can expose it via MSR. If not, we can maintain a table per
>> FMS in KVM to get the internal threshold. However, per FMS info is not
>> friendly to be virtualized (when we are going to enable the nested support).
>
> Yeah, FMS is awful. If the built-in buffer isn't discoverable, my vote is to
> assume the worst, i.e. a built-in buffer of '0', and have the notify_window
> param default to a safe value, e.g. 25k or maybe even 150k (to go above what the
> hardware folks apparently deemed safe for SPR). It's obviously not idea, but
> it's better than playing FMS guessing games.
>
>> I'll try to persuade internal to expose it via MSR, but I guarantee nothing.
>
> ...
>
>>> On a related topic, this needs tests. One thought would be to stop unconditionally
>>> intercepting #AC if NOTIFY_WINDOW is enabled, and then have the test set up the
>>> infinite #AC vectoring scenario.
>>>
>>
>> yes, we have already tested with this case with notify_window set to 0. No
>> false positive.
>
> Can you send a selftest or kvm-unit-test?
>
Actually we implement the attacking case of CVE-2015-5307 with
kvm-unit-test, while manually disabling the intercept of #AC.
First, it requires modification of KVM that only posting the
kvm-unit-test doesn't help.
Second, release the attacking case is not the correct action.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-10 7:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-25 5:12 Tao Xu
2021-06-02 10:31 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-03 1:23 ` Tao Xu
2021-06-03 13:43 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-03 1:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-03 13:35 ` Jim Mattson
2021-06-07 9:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-03 13:52 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-07 9:23 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-24 4:52 ` Tao Xu
2021-07-22 3:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-07-30 20:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-02 12:53 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-08-02 15:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-03 0:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-02 9:28 ` Chenyi Qiang
2021-09-02 16:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-07 13:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-09 18:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-10 7:39 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2021-09-10 17:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-02 16:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-02 16:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-07 13:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-09 18:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-13 2:58 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-10-15 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
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