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From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>, Tao Xu <tao3.xu@intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com,
	jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:39:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce2dfc44-d1cf-8d09-6a38-9befb6f65885@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTpW3M8Iyh8kLpyx@google.com>

On 9/10/2021 2:47 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2021, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>> On 9/3/2021 12:29 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>> After syncing internally, we know that the internal threshold is not
>>>> architectural but a model-specific value. It will be published in some place
>>>> in future.
>>>
>>> Any chance it will also be discoverable, e.g. via an MSR?
>>
>> I also hope we can expose it via MSR. If not, we can maintain a table per
>> FMS in KVM to get the internal threshold. However, per FMS info is not
>> friendly to be virtualized (when we are going to enable the nested support).
> 
> Yeah, FMS is awful.  If the built-in buffer isn't discoverable, my vote is to
> assume the worst, i.e. a built-in buffer of '0', and have the notify_window
> param default to a safe value, e.g. 25k or maybe even 150k (to go above what the
> hardware folks apparently deemed safe for SPR).  It's obviously not idea, but
> it's better than playing FMS guessing games.
> 
>> I'll try to persuade internal to expose it via MSR, but I guarantee nothing.
> 
> ...
> 
>>> On a related topic, this needs tests.  One thought would be to stop unconditionally
>>> intercepting #AC if NOTIFY_WINDOW is enabled, and then have the test set up the
>>> infinite #AC vectoring scenario.
>>>
>>
>> yes, we have already tested with this case with notify_window set to 0. No
>> false positive.
> 
> Can you send a selftest or kvm-unit-test?
> 

Actually we implement the attacking case of CVE-2015-5307 with 
kvm-unit-test, while manually disabling the intercept of #AC.

First, it requires modification of KVM that only posting the 
kvm-unit-test doesn't help.

Second, release the attacking case is not the correct action.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-10  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-25  5:12 Tao Xu
2021-06-02 10:31 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-03  1:23   ` Tao Xu
2021-06-03 13:43     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-03  1:25   ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-03 13:35     ` Jim Mattson
2021-06-07  9:24       ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-03 13:52     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-07  9:23       ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-24  4:52 ` Tao Xu
2021-07-22  3:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-07-30 20:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-02 12:53   ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-08-02 15:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-03  0:38       ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-02  9:28         ` Chenyi Qiang
2021-09-02 16:29           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-07 13:33             ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-09 18:47               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-10  7:39                 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2021-09-10 17:55                   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-02 16:15         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-02 16:36           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-07 13:45             ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-09 18:59               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-13  2:58                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-10-15 18:29                   ` Sean Christopherson

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