From: "Erez Zilber" <erezzi.list@gmail.com>
To: "Jens Axboe" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Should a block device enforce block atomicity?
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:58:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce513bcc0806300058mbe0f15eya07fafbb9ba4a56@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080630065525.GI20826@kernel.dk>
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30 2008, Erez Zilber wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a question about block devices and whether they are required to
>> enforce block atomicity:
>>
>> I read the code of drivers/block/brd.c, and I didn't see any locking
>> when blocks are read/written. I also looked at the block layer code
>> that calls brd and didn't find any locking there. Does it mean that
>> there's no block atomicity (i.e. multiple threads can write a single
>> block at the same time)? Is there any hidden assumption here? Is this
>> the responsibility of the application to do that (e.g. not start a
>> WRITE request before other READ/WRITE requests to the same block were
>> completed)?
>
> The block layer doesn't give such guarentees, not for "regular" block
> devices either. If the IO goes through the page cache then that will
> serialize IO to a given page, but with eg O_DIRECT IO, you could have
> the same block in flight several times. So if you are doing raw IO, the
> application has to ensure ordering of the same block.
>
So, do you say that people that write applications need to take care
of I/O serialization, and block devices (and the block layer itself)
don't need to care about this problem? I thought that standard disks
guarantee block atomicity (i.e. they don't count on the layers above
them to do that).
Erez
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-30 7:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-30 6:51 Erez Zilber
2008-06-30 6:55 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-30 7:58 ` Erez Zilber [this message]
2008-06-30 8:24 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-30 8:47 ` Zhao Forrest
2008-06-30 8:55 ` Jens Axboe
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