From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
To: "Jamie Lokier" <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
drepper@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes [v3]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:39:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0806030439n5a11fa4aocd6251ffab66b6dd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080603113018.GA27955@shareable.org>
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
> Michael Kerrisk wrote:
>> > FWIW, I very much doubt that you are right wrt required
>> > permissions, though. AFAICS, intent here is "if you can write to
>> > file, you can touch the timestamps anyway" and having descriptor
>> > opened for write gives that, current permissions be damned.
>>
>> The standard is pretty clear on this point:
>>
>> [[
>> Only a process with the effective user ID equal to the user ID of the
>> file, or with write access to the file, or with appropriate privileges
>> may use futimens( ) or utimensat( ) with a null pointer as the times
>> argument or with both tv_nsec fields set to the special value
>> UTIME_NOW.
>> ]]
>>
>> The crucial words here are "a process ... with write access to the
>> file" -- in other words, the permissions are determined by the
>> process's credentials, not by the access mode of the file descriptor.
>> I was not 100% sure on that to start with, so I did check it out with
>> one of the folk at The Open Group, to make sure of my understanding.
>
> Is there anything else where the file descriptor's access mode allows
> doing things on Linux, but the standard requires a permissions check
> each time?
Jamie,
I can't think of examples offhand -- but I'm also not quite sure what
your question is about. Could you say a little more?
Cheers,
Michael
--
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Found a bug? http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/reporting_bugs.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-03 11:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-16 8:31 [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes -- version 2 Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-16 8:34 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-16 16:59 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-17 19:57 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-19 9:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-19 10:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-19 12:24 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-19 13:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 15:34 ` [PATCH] utimensat() non-conformances and fixes [v3] Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 16:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 18:24 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 19:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-30 20:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-30 19:43 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 20:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-31 5:28 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-05-30 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-31 5:44 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:05 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 11:22 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 11:27 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03 11:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 11:39 ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2008-06-03 11:49 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 11:58 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 12:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 12:08 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 12:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 12:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 13:05 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 11:52 ` Michael Kerrisk
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=cfd18e0f0806030439n5a11fa4aocd6251ffab66b6dd@mail.gmail.com \
--to=mtk.manpages@googlemail.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=drepper@redhat.com \
--cc=jamie@shareable.org \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-man@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=miklos@szeredi.hu \
--cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®