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From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: "Halesh S" <halesh.s@india.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: parent process behaviour to signal after vfork()
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:24:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0810300624g7948b2efqe979278413d746b8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53383.1225345110@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

Hi Valdis,

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:38 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:17:36 CDT, Michael Kerrisk said:
>
>> diff --git a/man2/vfork.2 b/man2/vfork.2
>> index 55044ad..8a7ed50 100644
>> --- a/man2/vfork.2
>> +++ b/man2/vfork.2
>> @@ -94,7 +94,10 @@ but may call
>>  .PP
>>  Signal handlers are inherited, but not shared.
>>  Signals to the parent
>> -arrive after the child releases the parent's memory.
>> +arrive after the child releases the parent's memory (i.e., after the child calls
>> +.BR _exit (2)
>> +or
>> +.BR execve (2)).
>
> OK, I'll bite - when is the parent's memory released if the child doesn't
> depart by calling _exit() or execve(), but manages to get killed by an
> unhandled signal or the OOM killer or similar?

Yes, thanks for catching that.  The wording really should say, until
the child does execve(2) or it terminates.

> (That's the generic problem with adding itemized lists to an explanation - it's
> rarely clear if the list is an exhaustive list, or a non-complete list of
> examples.  Note how often we have flame wars regarding which EQUUX should be
> returned in a corner case that hinge on whether Posix says "Only FOO, BAR,
> and BAZ can be returned" or "FOO, BAR, BAZ are among the errors that can be
> returned")

I agree that this is sometime true, but examples need to be looked at
on a case-by-case basis.  Sometimes using deliberately vague language
is appropriate.  But sometimes, the solution is just better, more
precise language, and I think that's the case here.  For
man-pages-3.13, I applied the patch below.

Cheers,

Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-30 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-28  6:43 Halesh S
2008-10-28  8:24 ` Halesh S
2008-10-29 13:17 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-30  5:38   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-30 13:24     ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2008-10-30 13:26       ` Michael Kerrisk

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