From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
To: "Evgeniy Polyakov" <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>, "Robert Love" <rlove@rlove.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
john@johnmccutchan.com
Subject: Re: [take 3] Use pid in inotify events.
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:43:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0811190643j7769f768q53889bbc950ef251@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfd18e0f0811190634g276b4a2dm5b3d5de25a5c9222@mail.gmail.com>
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[CC+=John McCutchan, this time with hopefully a live email address;
John, some context here: http://marc.info/?t=122633022400003&r=1&w=2 ]
Evgeniy,
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Christoph.
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:19:37PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig (hch@lst.de) wrote:
> > Yes, this kind of thing should be enable using an flag to inotify1, and
> > be consistant even for rename. Doing it as a flag to inotify1 also has
> > the advantage to be able to return an -EPERM when the feature is
> > requested but not allowed instead of letting applications that assume it
> > silently fail.
>
> So effectively you propose to have second generation of the inotify
> which will have additional pid field, which will be unused by all but
> the same uid events?
I suspect that Christoph wants the same thing as I do: some thinking
towards a future-proof design, rather than a quick hack to address the
needs of a single application.
> If you want to return -EPERM, than it will be _always_ returned for non
> sysadmin capable user, which effectively makes it unusable.
Again, appropriate flags in inotify_init1() could fix this -- e.g.,
only fill the field (and give an error if no perms) if a flag is set.
I think what is really needed at this point is some consideration of
what other extensions (if any) might be desired for inotify, and how
we might be best create a design that suits those and future needs.
Cheers,
Michael
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-19 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <acdcfe7e0811081035l56eedf05x8b3b7ee2fc01eee6@mail.gmail.com>
2008-11-08 18:40 ` [1/1] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-08 22:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-10 15:13 ` [take 2] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-16 23:24 ` [take 3] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-17 16:59 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-11-17 17:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-17 17:23 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-11-17 17:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-20 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-21 14:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-21 14:20 ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-11-21 14:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-21 14:30 ` Robert Love
2008-11-21 14:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-21 14:57 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-21 15:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-18 13:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-19 14:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
[not found] ` <cfd18e0f0811190634g276b4a2dm5b3d5de25a5c9222@mail.gmail.com>
2008-11-19 14:43 ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2008-11-20 19:17 ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-11-19 14:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-20 22:34 ` John McCutchan
2008-11-20 23:06 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-21 18:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-11-22 7:12 ` David Newall
2008-11-22 9:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-22 11:41 ` David Newall
2008-11-22 9:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-24 5:08 ` John McCutchan
2008-11-24 7:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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