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From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch/rfc] eventfd semaphore-like behavior
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:48:45 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd18e0f0902041548q3c392cb0wb642cb00bc58c1b3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902041526590.6214@alien.or.mcafeemobile.com>

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:18:43 -0800 (PST)
>> Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Simple test here:
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.xmailserver.org/eventfd-sem.c
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
>> > > >
>> > > > +/*
>> > > > + * CAREFUL: Check include/asm-generic/fcntl.h when defining
>> > > > + * new flags, since they might collide with O_* ones. We want
>> > > > + * to re-use O_* flags that couldn't possibly have a meaning
>> > > > + * from eventfd, in order to leave a free define-space for
>> > > > + * shared O_* flags.
>> > > > + */
>> > > > +#define EFD_SEMAPHORE (1 << 0)
>> > > >  #define EFD_CLOEXEC O_CLOEXEC
>> > > >  #define EFD_NONBLOCK O_NONBLOCK
>> > > >
>> > > > +#define EFD_SHARED_FCNTL_FLAGS (O_CLOEXEC | O_NONBLOCK)
>> > > > +#define EFD_FLAGS_SET (EFD_SHARED_FCNTL_FLAGS | EFD_SEMAPHORE)
>> > >
>> > > How would you recommend that userspace determine whether its kernel
>> > > supports this feature, bearing in mind that someone might backport this
>> > > patch into arbitrarily earlier kernel versions?
>> > >
>> > > What should be userspace's fallback strategy if that support is not
>> > > present?
>> >
>> > #ifdef EFD_SEMAPHORE, maybe?
>>
>> That's compile-time.  People who ship binaries will probably want
>> to find a runtime thing for back-compatibility.
>
> I dunno. How do they actually do when we add new flags, like the O_ ones?

Maybe I missed something, but I think we're okay, aren't we?  Viz:

a) The glibc eventfd() wrapper invokes sys_eventfd2() (which allows a
flags arg) if it is available, and otherwise fall back to
sys_eventfd() (which does not support a flags arg).

b) If glibc falls back to sys_eventfd(), then it knows to reject
non-zero flags.  (The glibc wrapper already does this.)

c) If the old sys_eventfd2() is given a flag that it doesn't
recognize, then it fails with EINVAL.  (That check is already in the
code.)

So, userspace can determine whether EFD_SEMAPHORE is supported by not
getting an EINVAL error.  (Okay, this falls down for binaries that
bypass glibc's eventfd() wrapper, but there are unlikely to be such
binaries.)

Cheers,

Michael
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-04 23:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-04 22:58 Davide Libenzi
2009-02-04 23:05 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 23:18   ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-04 23:24     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 23:27       ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-04 23:48         ` Michael Kerrisk [this message]
2009-02-04 23:55         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 23:59           ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-02-05  0:02             ` Davide Libenzi
2010-08-30  5:21               ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-08-30  5:24                 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-08-30 14:22                 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-05  0:18             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-05  0:25               ` Davide Libenzi
2009-02-05  0:34                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-05  0:26               ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-02-04 23:45   ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-02-04 23:49     ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-02-09  7:45 ` Michael Kerrisk
2009-02-09 17:39   ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found] <499E527B.2030702@fastmq.com>
2009-02-20  7:00 ` Martin Sustrik

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