From: Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@courier-mta.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Laura Abbott" <labbott@redhat.com>, Brent <fix@bitrealm.com>,
"Konstantin Khlebnikov" <koct9i@gmail.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Cyrill Gorcunov" <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] RLIMIT_DATA crashes named
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:30:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cone.1474065027.299244.29242.1004@monster.email-scan.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzWts-dgNRuqfwHu4VeN-YcRqkZdMiRpRQ=Pg91sWJ=VQ@mail.gmail.com>
Linus Torvalds writes:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > As far as I can tell this isn't Fedora specific.
>
> Some googling does seem to say that "datalimit 20M" and "named.conf"
> ends up being some really old default that just gets endlessly copied.
>
> So no, it's not Fedora-specific per se.
I'll confirm that.
It's been sitting in my named.conf for at least ten years. I don't remember
where it came from. The Google sources are very likely. I probably copied
it, from some tutorial.
> But I suspect most people with a named.conf did either
>
> (a) get it from their distro and didn't change it and so if the
> distro just updates theirs, things will automatically "just work"
>
> (b) actually did write their own (or at least edited it), and knows
> what they are doing, and have absolutely no problem removing or
> updating that datalimit thing.
(b) in my case. Now that the root cause is mostly known, I'll just bump it
up.
> The really annoying thing seems to be that the kernel message has been
> hidden too much. IOW, Sam in his bugzilla report clearly found the
> system messages with
>
> Sep 10 07:38:23 shorty systemd-coredump: Process 1651 (named) of
> user 25 dumped core.
>
> but for some reason never noticed the kernel saying (quoting Jason):
>
> mmap: named (593): VmData 27566080 exceed data ulimit 20971520.
> Update limits or use boot option ignore_rlimit_data
>
> at the same time.
>
> Ok, the kernel only says it *once*. Maybe Sam had it in his logs, but
> didn't notice the initial failure (which would have had the kernel
> message too), and he then looked at the logs for when he tried to
> re-start.
I still have this log file. Looking over it, this is indeed what happened.
> Or maybe the system logs don't have those kernel messages, which would
> be a disaster.
>
> So maybe we should just change the "pr_warn_once()" into
> "pr_warn_ratelimited()", except the default rate limits for that are
> wrong (we'd perhaps want something like "at most once every minute" or
> similar, while the default rate limits are along the lines of "max 10
> lines every 5 _seconds_").
>
> Sam, do you end up seeing the kernel warning in your logs if you just
> go back earlier in the boot?
Yes, I found it.
Sep 10 07:36:29 shorty kernel: mmap: named (1108): VmData 52588544 exceed
data ulimit 20971520. Update limits or use boot option ignore_rlimit_data.
Now that I know what to search for: this appeared about 300 lines earlier in
/var/log/messages.
When trying to figure out what's going on with named, searching backwards in
time, and finding the logged segault @07:38:23, IIRC I only looked as far
back until the @07:38:23 timestamp started, and did not see anything other
the apparent segfault. Before that, /var/log/messages was full of other
noise. The original named that was launched two minutes earlier was ancient
history, by then.
All I saw was that named was apparently segfaulting after booting a new
kernel. Ok, boot back to the previous kernel, search bugzilla to see if it
was reported already, and, if not, create it yourself. That's what happened.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-16 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-16 15:16 Laura Abbott
2016-09-16 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-16 20:10 ` Laura Abbott
2016-09-16 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-16 22:30 ` Sam Varshavchik [this message]
2016-09-16 23:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-17 0:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-17 4:08 ` Joe Perches
2016-09-17 8:33 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-09-17 9:09 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2016-09-17 12:09 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-09-17 12:20 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2016-09-17 21:40 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-09-17 21:52 ` Joe Perches
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