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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Andrew Halaney <ahalaney@redhat.com>
Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Jose Abreu <joabreu@synopsys.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>,
	Srini Kandagatla <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
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	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] net: stmmac: allow sharing MDIO lines
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 17:15:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d021b8ae-a6a3-4697-a683-c9bd45e6c74b@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xfme5pgj4eqlgao3vmyg6vazaqk6qz2wq6kitgujtorouogjty@cklyof3xz2zm>

> I'll make the water muddier (hopefully clearer?). I have access to the
> board schematic (not SIP/SOM stuff though), but that should help here.
> 
> MAC0 owns its own MDIO bus (we'll call it MDIO0). It is pinmuxed to
> gpio8/gpio9 for mdc/mdio. MAC1 owns its own bus (MDIO1) which is
> pinmuxed to gpio21/22.
> 
> On MDIO0 there are two SGMII ethernet phys. One is connected to MAC0,
> one is connected to MAC1.
> 
> MDIO1 is not connected to anything on the board. So there is only one
> MDIO master, MAC0 on MDIO0, and it manages the ethernet phy for both
> MAC0/MAC1.
> 
> Does that make sense? I don't think from a hardware design standpoint
> this is violating anything, it isn't a multimaster setup on MDIO.

Thanks for taking a detailed look at the schematics. This is how i
would expect it to be.

> > > > Good point, but it's worse than that: when MAC0 is unbound, it will
> > > > unregister the MDIO bus and destroy all PHY devices. These are not
> > > > refcounted so they will literally go from under MAC1. Not sure how
> > > > this can be dealt with?
> > >
> > > unbinding is not a normal operation. So i would just live with it, and
> > > if root decides to shoot herself in the foot, that is her choice.
> > >
> > 
> > I disagree. Unbinding is very much a normal operation.

What do you use it for?

I don't think i've ever manually done it. Maybe as part of a script to
unbind the FTDI driver from an FTDI device in order to use user space
tools to program the EEPROM? But that is about it.

I actually expect many unbind operations are broken because it is very
rarely used.

       Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-08 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-07 19:31 Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-08-07 19:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: net: snps,dwmac: document the snps,shared-mdio property Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-08-07 19:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: stmmac: support shared MDIO Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-08-07 19:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] net: stmmac: allow sharing MDIO lines Andrew Lunn
2023-08-08  8:13   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-08-08 13:09     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-08 13:26     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-08-08 14:09       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-08-08 14:25         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-08 14:30           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-08-08 14:44             ` Andrew Halaney
2023-08-08 15:10               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-08-08 15:15               ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2023-08-08 15:27                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-08-08 18:26                 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-08-08 18:38                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-08-08 14:30         ` Russell King (Oracle)

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