From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] getvalues(2) prototype
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 15:39:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0894565-9783-b398-0faf-60bfb96837ce@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegvwTmaw0bp70-nYQAvs8T=wYyxnDEoA=rOvX8HDZnxCTg@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/23/2022 7:00 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 14:51, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>
>> You also need a way to get a list off what attributes are available
>> and/or a way to get all available attributes. Applications and especially
>> libraries shouldn't have to guess what information is relevant. If the
>> attributes change depending on the filesystem and/or LSM involved, and
>> they do, how can a general purpose library function know what data to
>> ask for?
> Oh, yes. Even the current prototype does that:
>
> # ~/getvalues / ""
> [] = "mnt" "mntns" "xattr" "data" (len=21)
> # ~/getvalues / "mnt"
> [mnt] = "id" "parentid" "root" "mountpoint" "options" "shared"
> "master" "propagate_from" "unbindable" (len=76)
> # ~/getvalues / "mntns"
> [mntns] = "21" "22" "24" "25" "23" "26" "27" "28" "29" "30" "31" "32" (len=36)
> ~/getvalues / "mntns:21"
> [mntns:21] = "id" "parentid" "root" "mountpoint" "options" "shared"
> "master" "propagate_from" "unbindable" (len=76)
That requires multiple calls and hierarchy tracking by the caller.
Not to mention that in this case the caller needs to understand
how mount namespaces are being used. I don't see that you've made
anything cleaner. You have discarded the type checking provided
by the "classic" APIs. Elsewhere in this thread the claims of
improved performance have been questioned, but I can't say boo
about that. Is this interface targeted for languages other than C
for which the paradigm might provide (more?) value?
>
> I didn't implement enumeration for "data" and "xattr" but that is
> certainly possible and not even difficult to do.
>
> Thanks,
> Miklos
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-23 22:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-22 19:27 Miklos Szeredi
2022-03-22 19:30 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-03-22 20:36 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-22 20:53 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-23 7:14 ` Greg KH
2022-03-23 7:16 ` Greg KH
2022-03-23 10:26 ` Bernd Schubert
2022-03-23 11:42 ` Greg KH
2022-03-23 12:06 ` Bernd Schubert
2022-03-23 12:13 ` Greg KH
2022-03-23 19:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-03-23 11:42 ` Christian Brauner
2022-03-23 13:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-03-23 13:38 ` Greg KH
2022-03-23 15:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-03-24 6:56 ` Greg KH
2022-03-23 13:51 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-23 14:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-03-23 22:39 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2022-03-23 22:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-03-24 6:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 8:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-03-24 16:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-25 8:46 ` Karel Zak
2022-03-25 8:54 ` Greg KH
2022-03-25 9:25 ` Karel Zak
2022-03-26 4:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-03-25 18:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 11:02 ` Cyril Hrubis
2022-03-23 22:58 ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-23 23:17 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-24 8:57 ` Miklos Szeredi
2022-03-24 10:34 ` Amir Goldstein
2022-03-24 20:31 ` Dave Chinner
2022-03-25 9:10 ` Karel Zak
2022-03-25 16:42 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-03-27 21:03 ` Dave Chinner
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