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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Bj?rn Mork <bmork@dod.no>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Resume from swsusp stopped working with 2.6.14 and 2.6.15-rc1
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:45:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d120d5000511221045x35cfb416q67c855414b896315@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051122174643.GB1752@elf.ucw.cz>

On 11/22/05, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> [Please Cc me if you want fast reply.]
>
> > > Swsusp: do not time-out when stopping tasks while resuming
> > >
> > > When stopping tasks during esume process there is no point of
> > > eastablishing a timeout because teh process is past the point
> > > of no return; there is no possible recovery from failure. If
> > > stopping tasks fails resume is aborted and user is forced to
> > > do fsck anyway.
> >
> > If a clueless users voice counts for anything: I couldn't agree more.
> >
> > A failed resume is a near catastrophy if you use and trust swsusp. And
> > how could it ever be useful if you don't?
>
> Failed resume is only as bad as powerfail.
>

So? I don't like powerfails either. Could you please answer this
question - what pros of having resume process time out do you
envision? What problems does it help to solve?

> > Maybe that even would give me a chance to fix some hardware problem
> > causing the timeout, and then retry the resume.
>
> ..while doing resume few times, trying to change hw config to make it
> resume is _way_ more dangerous.

And still we have to do our best to support it. There is USB,
Firewire, Docking station that may appear/disappear while box is
suspended and we absolutely need to support this. Requiring that
hardware configuration has to be frozen between suspend/resume cycles
will not get us far.

--
Dmitry

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-12 13:39 Bjørn Mork
2005-11-12 15:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-12 20:01   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-12 20:39   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-13  1:53     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-13 10:09       ` Bjørn Mork
2005-11-17 21:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-18  9:37   ` Bjørn Mork
2005-11-18 11:40   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 11:49     ` Bjørn Mork
2005-11-18 18:31       ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 23:32         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-19 23:48           ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-22  5:26             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-22  8:57               ` Bjørn Mork
2005-11-22 17:46                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-22 18:41                   ` Bjørn Mork
2005-11-22 18:53                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-22 18:45                   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2005-11-22 18:59                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-22 19:08                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-22 20:37                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-11-22 18:47               ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-22 22:15                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-22 22:51                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 10:09                     ` Bjørn Mork
2005-11-23 12:01                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 13:14                         ` Bjørn Mork
2005-11-23 13:25                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 10:53                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-18 13:46   ` Bernd Donner
2005-11-13  3:08 Bernd Donner
2005-11-13 12:13 ` Jacek Kawa

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