From: Tao Cui <cui.tao@linux.dev>
To: axboe@kernel.dk, kbusch@kernel.org, tj@kernel.org, hch@lst.de,
sagi@grimberg.me, yukuai@fygo.io
Cc: cui.tao@linux.dev, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cuitao@kylinos.cn
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] block: charge passthrough requests to the submitter's cgroup
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 15:27:10 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1509bf3-b56f-4f81-885f-329a5c710c56@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260921070647.1928289-1-cui.tao@linux.dev>
Hi,
在 2026/9/21 15:06, Tao Cui 写道:
> From: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
>
> While looking at cgroup IO control coverage, I stumbled into a hole
> that is probably familiar to people who have worked on passthrough:
> SG_IO, bsg, and the NVMe ioctl / uring command paths build requests
> directly and dispatch them through blk_execute_rq{,_nowait}(),
> never passing through submit_bio(). The mapped bio carries no blkcg
> association, so the bytes never show up in cgroup io.stat, and none
> of the rq_qos policies (iocost, iolatency, wbt) see these commands;
> blk-throttle, hooking submit_bio_noacct() directly, is equally
> blind. On a scsi_debug device with iocost enabled and vrate pinned
> to its 1% floor, a direct writer in a cgroup is throttled ~10x while
> the same cgroup issuing sg_dd writes runs at full device speed with
> io.stat staying at zero.
>
> This RFC is a prototype asking for feedback on one possible
> direction, not a proposal I am attached to: is charging passthrough
> at dispatch time the right layer and the right semantics at all?
>
> The patch associates the mapped bio with the submitter's blkcg in
> blk_execute_rq{,_nowait}(), runs the regular bio accounting
> (blk_cgroup_bio_start()) and the rq_qos throttle path with it, and
> gates by opcode (READ/WRITE/DRV_IN/DRV_OUT, mapping the latter two
> to READ/WRITE for io.stat classification) and to queues that already
> have a gendisk so probing stays exempt. On linux-next, with
> scsi_debug + sg_dd and qemu emulated nvme + an NVME_IOCTL_IO64_CMD
> loop, the transferred bytes are fully accounted in the issuing
> cgroup, and with vrate clamped the pacing bites: the same 128MB
> SG_IO run takes 0.025s unthrottled and 31.7s at the 1% floor, with
> the issuing task sleeping on the iocost waitqueue like any bio
> submitter.
>
> Questions I am unsure about:
>
> 1. Is always-on the right default, or should this hide behind the
> queue/iostats_passthrough opt-in from the passthrough iostats
> series, keeping default behavior unchanged?
> 2. The throttle may sleep; all callers I found (ioctl / uring_cmd
> submit, target and error handling kthreads) are sleepable, and
> kthread-issued charges land on root and turn into no-ops - but
> I may have missed paths, and I'd rather ask than assume.
> 3. What should happen on nvme multipath failover, where the bio is
> re-routed to another queue but carries the original queue's
> blkg? Untested; guidance welcome.
> 4. wbt also gains passthrough throttling through the same rq_qos
> walk - probably benign since wbt targets buffered writeback,
> but it is a behavior change I did not set out to make.
> 5. blk-throttle does not benefit (it is not an rq_qos policy, and
> its queue-and-resubmit model does not fit bios already bound to
> a dispatched request); would a synchronous wait variant there
> be welcome as follow-up work, or is leaving it alone preferred?
>
> Reproduction notes in case anyone tries: sg_dd coalesces into very
> large single commands by default (use bpt=1), and a short burst from
> a single cgroup rides the initial budget, so sustained transfers
> are what show the pacing.
>
The cover letter summarized the motivation briefly, so let me add some
background on how this came up and what the prototype is trying to
address.
How this was found
------------------
This came from stress testing blk-iocost on linux-next with mixed IO
workloads and cgroup churn. With the known bio-path accounting gaps
(flush, zone append) already carrying posted fixes, the remaining
missing cases had one property in common: they build requests directly
and enter through blk_execute_rq(), bypassing submit_bio() entirely.
The invariant being violated is simple to state: any IO that consumes
device bandwidth but bypasses submit_bio() currently bypasses blkcg IO
accounting. Passthrough commands, including SG_IO, bsg, nvme ioctls and
uring commands, currently fall into this category: they have no blkcg
association, do not show up in io.stat, and do not participate in
blkcg-aware rq_qos policies such as iocost and iolatency.
The observable difference
-------------------------
On the same scsi_debug device, with the same cgroup and iocost enabled
with vrate pinned at its 1% floor:
bio writer (fio) throttled ~10x
SG_IO writer (sg_dd) full device speed,
io.stat remains zero
The NVMe ioctl path shows the same behavior: passthrough provides a
path that bypasses the existing accounting boundary.
With the prototype patch
------------------------
The mapped bio is associated with the submitting blkcg in
blk_execute_rq{,_nowait}(), and goes through the normal bio accounting
and rq_qos paths.
With the same setup:
- a 128MB SG_IO write (bs=1M, bpt=1) is accounted to the issuing
cgroup's io.stat, with wbytes/wios matching the transfer;
- the same workload takes 0.025s without throttling and 31.7s with
vrate at the 1% floor, with the task sleeping in the iocost throttle
path.
Two reproduction notes: sg_dd combines transfers into large commands by
default, so bpt=1 is needed for scsi_debug. Also, short bursts can be
covered by the initial budget; sustained transfers make the difference
visible.
Relation to passthrough iostats
-------------------------------
This RFC builds on Keith's passthrough iostats work. That series made
disk-level passthrough accounting possible and provided block-device
association for passthrough bios where it is available.
This RFC is about the next layer: whether passthrough IO should also
participate in blkcg accounting and enforcement.
The questions from the cover letter still stand. In particular, I am
not sure whether attaching blkcg/accounting at this layer is the right
abstraction, or whether this should remain an opt-in behavior like
passthrough iostats.
Thanks,
Tao
>
> Tao Cui (1):
> block: charge passthrough requests to the submitter's cgroup
>
> block/blk-mq.c | 72 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 72 insertions(+)
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-21 7:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-21 7:06 Tao Cui
2026-09-21 7:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] " Tao Cui
2026-09-21 16:51 ` Tejun Heo
2026-09-22 8:09 ` Tao Cui
2026-09-21 7:27 ` Tao Cui [this message]
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