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From: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: <alex.williamson@redhat.com>, <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<liranl@nvidia.com>, <oren@nvidia.com>, <tzahio@nvidia.com>,
	<leonro@nvidia.com>, <yarong@nvidia.com>, <aviadye@nvidia.com>,
	<shahafs@nvidia.com>, <artemp@nvidia.com>, <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	<ACurrid@nvidia.com>, <cjia@nvidia.com>, <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	<mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>, <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] vfio/pci: export nvlink2 support into vendor vfio_pci drivers
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:44:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2c32828-3417-1872-6451-2450e6fa763d@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73c99da0-6624-7aa2-2857-ef68092c0d07@ozlabs.ru>


On 3/11/2021 9:54 AM, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>
>
> On 11/03/2021 13:00, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:42:56PM +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>>>> btw can the id list have only vendor ids and not have device ids?
>>>>
>>>> The PCI matcher is quite flexable, see the other patch from Max for
>>>> the igd
>>>   ah cool, do this for NVIDIA GPUs then please, I just discovered 
>>> another P9
>>> system sold with NVIDIA T4s which is not in your list.
>>
>> I think it will make things easier down the road if you maintain an
>> exact list <shrug>
>
>
> Then why do not you do the exact list for Intel IGD? The commit log 
> does not explain this detail.

I expect Intel team to review this series and give a more precise list.

I did the best I could in finding a proper configuration for igd.


>
>
>>>> But best practice is to be as narrow as possible as I hope this will
>>>> eventually impact module autoloading and other details.
>>>
>>> The amount of device specific knowledge is too little to tie it up 
>>> to device
>>> ids, it is a generic PCI driver with quirks. We do not have a separate
>>> drivers for the hardware which requires quirks.
>>
>> It provides its own capability structure exposed to userspace, that is
>> absolutely not a "quirk"
>>
>>> And how do you hope this should impact autoloading?
>>
>> I would like to autoload the most specific vfio driver for the target
>> hardware.
>
>
> Is there an idea how it is going to work? For example, the Intel IGD 
> driver and vfio-pci-igd - how should the system pick one? If there is 
> no MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE in vfio-pci-xxx, is the user supposed to try 
> binding all vfio-pci-xxx drivers until some binds?

For example, in my local setup I did a POC patch that convert some 
drivers to be "manual binding only drivers".

So the IGD driver will have the priority, user will unbind the device 
from it, load igd-vfio-pci, bind the device to it, ends with probing.

For now we separated the driver core stuff until we all agree that this 
series is the right way to go + we also make sure it's backward compatible.

>
>
>> If you someday need to support new GPU HW that needs a different VFIO
>> driver then you are really stuck because things become indeterminate
>> if there are two devices claiming the ID. We don't have the concept of
>> "best match", driver core works on exact match.
>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-09  8:33 [PATCH v3 0/9] Introduce vfio-pci-core subsystem Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 1/9] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci.c to vfio_pci_core.c Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 2/9] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_private.h to vfio_pci_core.h Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 3/9] vfio-pci: rename vfio_pci_device to vfio_pci_core_device Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 4/9] vfio-pci: introduce vfio_pci_core subsystem driver Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 5/9] vfio/pci: introduce vfio_pci_device structure Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 6/9] vfio-pci-core: export vfio_pci_register_dev_region function Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 7/9] vfio/pci_core: split nvlink2 to nvlink2gpu and npu2 Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10  8:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 8/9] vfio/pci: export nvlink2 support into vendor vfio_pci drivers Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10  6:39   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-10 12:57     ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10 13:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-10 14:24         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-10 19:40           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11  1:20             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-11  1:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11  1:42                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-11  2:00                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11  7:54                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-11  9:44                       ` Max Gurtovoy [this message]
2021-03-11 16:51                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 17:01                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-10 14:19       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-11  1:10         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-19 15:23       ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-19 16:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 16:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 16:28             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 16:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 17:36                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-19 20:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-19 21:08                     ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-19 22:59                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-20  4:40                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-21 12:58                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-22 16:40                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-23 19:32                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-24  2:39                                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-29 23:10                                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-04-01 13:04                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-04-01 13:12                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-01 21:49                                     ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-22 15:11                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 16:44                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-23 13:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 13:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-09  8:33 ` [PATCH 9/9] vfio/pci: export igd support into vendor vfio_pci driver Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-10  8:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-10 12:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 11:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 12:09         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-03-11 15:43         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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