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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@leemhuis.info>,
	Dusty Mabe <dusty@dustymabe.com>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	"regressions@lists.linux.dev" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: regression caused by block: freeze the queue earlier in del_gendisk
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 08:05:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d39e9149-fcb6-1f7c-4c19-234e74f286f8@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2c28043-59e6-0aee-b8bf-df38525ee899@leemhuis.info>

On 9/20/22 3:11 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Hi, this is your Linux kernel regression tracker.
> 
> On 13.09.22 04:36, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>> On 9/12/22 21:55, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 09:16:18AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 04:24:40PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 09:33:24AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 03:06:08PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>>>> It is a bit hard to associate the above commit with reported issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the messages clearly are about something trying to open a device
>>>>>> that went away at the block layer, but somehow does not get removed
>>>>>> in time by udev (which seems to be a userspace bug in CoreOS).  But
>>>>>> even with that we really should not hang.
>>>>>
>>>>> Xiao Ni provides one script[1] which can reproduce the issue more or less.
>>>>
>>>> I've run the reproduced 10000 times on current mainline, and while
>>>> it prints one of the autoloading messages per run, I've not actually
>>>> seen any kind of hang.
>>>
>>> I can't reproduce the hang too.
>>
>> I obviously can reproduce the issue with the test in our Fedora CoreOS
>> test suite. It's part of a framework (i.e. it's not simple some script
>> you can run) but it is very reproducible so one can add some instrumentation
>> to the kernel and feed it through a build/test cycle to see different
>> results or logs.
>>
>> I'm willing to share this with other people (maybe a screen share or
>> some written down instructions) if anyone would be interested.
> 
> This thread looked stalled, or was there any progress in the past week?
> If not: Fedora apparently removed the patch in their kernels a while
> ago, as quite a few users where hitting it. What is preventing us from
> doing the same in mainline and 5.19.y until the issue can be resolved?
> The description of a09b314005f3 ("block: freeze the queue earlier in
> del_gendisk") doesn't sound like the change does something crucial that
> can't wait a bit. I might be totally wrong with that, but I think it's
> my duty to ask that question at this point.

Christoph and I discussed this one last week, and he has a plan to try
a flag approach. Christoph, did you get a chance to bang that out? Would
be nice to get this one wrapped up.

-- 
Jens Axboe



  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-20 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26 16:15 Dusty Mabe
2022-08-28 10:24 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-08-31 12:36   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-09-01  7:06 ` Ming Lei
2022-09-03 13:47   ` Dusty Mabe
2022-09-07  7:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-09-07  8:38     ` Ming Lei
2022-09-07 14:40       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-09-07 14:58         ` Ming Lei
2022-09-07 15:53           ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-09-09  8:24     ` Ming Lei
2022-09-12  7:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-09-13  1:55         ` Ming Lei
2022-09-13  2:36           ` Dusty Mabe
2022-09-20  9:11             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-09-20 14:05               ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2022-09-20 14:12                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-09-20 14:14                   ` Jens Axboe
2022-09-21  9:25                     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-09-21 14:34                       ` Jens Axboe
2022-09-21 14:47                         ` Greg KH
2022-09-21 14:56                           ` Jens Axboe
2022-09-26  7:09                             ` Greg KH
2022-09-07  7:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-09-07 14:56   ` Dusty Mabe

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