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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: xen_exit_mmap() questions
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:55:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3be0f11-5699-bc90-c1f0-b770bc7da596@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWY7F0kFQKpKQDeAtwuYeZznJbQbA12QjNpkQ5faFLoWA@mail.gmail.com>



On 04/26/2017 06:49 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Boris Ostrovsky
> <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> wrote:
>> On 04/26/2017 04:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> I was trying to understand xen_drop_mm_ref() to update it for some
>>> changes I'm working on, and I'm wondering whether we need
>>> xen_exit_mmap() at all.
>>>
>>> AFAICS the intent is to force all CPUs to drop their lazy uses of the
>>> mm being destroyed so it can be unpinned before tearing down the page
>>> tables, thus making it faster to tear down the page tables.  This
>>> seems like it'll speed up xen_set_pud() and xen_set_pmd(), but this
>>> seems like it may be of rather limited value.
>>
>> Why do you think it's of limited value? Without it we will end up with a
>> hypercall for each update.
>>
>> Or is your point that the number of those update is relatively small
>> when we are tearing down?
>
> The latter.  Also, unless I'm missing something, xen_set_pte() doesn't
> have the optimization.  I haven't looked at exactly how page table
> teardown works, but if it clears each PTE individually, then that's
> the bulk of the work.
>
>>
>>
>>>  Could we get away with
>>> deleting it?
>>>
>>> Also, this code in drop_other_mm_ref() looks dubious to me:
>>>
>>>     /* If this cpu still has a stale cr3 reference, then make sure
>>>        it has been flushed. */
>>>     if (this_cpu_read(xen_current_cr3) == __pa(mm->pgd))
>>>         load_cr3(swapper_pg_dir);
>>>
>>> If cr3 hasn't been flushed to the hypervisor because we're in a lazy
>>> mode, why would load_cr3() help?  Shouldn't this be xen_mc_flush()
>>> instead?
>>
>> load_cr3() actually ends with xen_mc_flush() by way of xen_write_cr3()
>> -> xen_mc_issue().
>
> xen_mc_issue() does:
>
>         if ((paravirt_get_lazy_mode() & mode) == 0)
>                 xen_mc_flush();
>
> I assume the load_cr3() is intended to deal with the case where we're
> in lazy mode, but we'll still be in lazy mode, right?  Or does it
> serve some other purpose?

Of course. I can't read (I ignored the "== 0" part).

Apparently the early version had an explicit flush but then it 
disappeared (commit 9f79991d4186089e228274196413572cc000143b).

The point of CR3 loading here, I believe, is to make sure the hypervisor 
knows that the (v)CPU is no longer using the the mm's cr3 (we are 
loading swapper_pgdir here).

-boris

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-27  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-26 20:52 Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-26 22:45 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-04-26 22:49   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-27  0:55     ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2017-04-27  1:08       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-27 13:21         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-04-27 16:46           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-27 20:00             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-04-27 21:22               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-27  6:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-04-27  7:40       ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich

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