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From: Huan Yang <link@vivo.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] Introduce unbalance proactive reclaim
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 15:53:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3d2f43f-0733-4205-a649-0a42ea88f377@vivo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8ack889.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

HI Huang, Ying

Thanks for reply.

在 2023/11/8 15:35, Huang, Ying 写道:
> Huan Yang <link@vivo.com> writes:
>
>> In some cases, we need to selectively reclaim file pages or anonymous
>> pages in an unbalanced manner.
>>
>> For example, when an application is pushed to the background and frozen,
>> it may not be opened for a long time, and we can safely reclaim the
>> application's anonymous pages, but we do not want to touch the file pages.
>>
>> This patchset extends the proactive reclaim interface to achieve
>> unbalanced reclamation. Users can control the reclamation tendency by
>> inputting swappiness under the original interface. Specifically, users
>> can input special values to extremely reclaim specific pages.
>  From mem_cgroup_swappiness(), cgroupv2 doesn't have per-cgroup
> swappiness.  So you need to add that firstly?
Sorry for this mistake, we always work on cgroupv1, so, not notice
this commit 4550c4e, thank your for point that.

I see this commit comment that `that's a different discussion`, but,
to implements this, I will try add.

>
>> Example:
>>    	echo "1G" 200 > memory.reclaim (only reclaim anon)
>> 	  echo "1G" 0  > memory.reclaim (only reclaim file)
>> 	  echo "1G" 1  > memory.reclaim (only reclaim file)
>>
>> Note that when performing unbalanced reclamation, the cgroup swappiness
>> will be temporarily adjusted dynamically to the input value. Therefore,
>> if the cgroup swappiness is further modified during runtime, there may
>> be some errors.
> If cgroup swappiness will be adjusted temporarily, why not just change
> it via a script before/after proactive reclaiming?
IMO, this unbalance reclaim only takes effect for a single command,
so if it is pre-set using a script, the judgment of the reclamation tendency
may become complicated.

So, do you mean avoid use cgroup swappiness, just type anon or file to 
control
this extreme unbalanced reclamation?

>
>> However, this is acceptable because the interface is dynamically called
>> by the user and the timing should be controlled by the user.
>>
>> This patchset did not implement the type-based reclamation as expected
>> in the documentation.(anon or file) Because in addition to extreme unbalanced
>> reclamation, this patchset can also adapt to the reclamation tendency
>> allocated according to swappiness, which is more flexible.
>>
>> Self test
>> ========
>> After applying the following patches and myself debug patch, my self-test
>> results are as follows:
>>
>> 1. LRU test
>> ===========
>>    a. Anon unbalance reclaim
>>    ```
>>    cat memory.stat | grep anon
>>      inactive_anon 7634944
>>      active_anon 7741440
>>
>>    echo "200M" 200 > memory.reclaim
>>
>>    cat memory.stat | grep anon
>>      inactive_anon 0
>>      active_anon 0
>>
>>    cat memory.reclaim_stat_summary(self debug interface)
>>      [22368]sh total reclaimed 0 file, 3754 anon, covered item=0
>>    ```
>>
>>    b. File unbalance reclaim
>>    ```
>>    cat memory.stat | grep file
>>      inactive_file 82862080
>>      active_file 48664576
>>
>>    echo "100M" 0 > memory.reclaim
>>    cat memory.stat | grep file
>>      inactive_file 34164736
>>      active_file 18370560
>>
>>    cat memory.reclaim_stat_summary(self debug interface)
>>      [22368]sh total reclaimed 13732 file, 0 anon, covered item=0
>>    ```
>>
>> 2. MGLRU test
>> ============
>> a. Anon unbalance reclaim
>> ```
>> echo y > /sys/kernel/mm/lru_gen/enabled
>> cat /sys/kernel/mm/lru_gen/enabled
>>    0x0003
>>
>> cat memory.stat | grep anon
>>    inactive_anon 17653760
>>    active_anon 1740800
>>
>> echo "100M" 200 > memory.reclaim
>>
>> cat memory.reclaim_stat_summary
>>    [8251]sh total reclaimed 0 file, 5393 anon, covered item=0
>> ```
>>
>> b. File unbalance reclaim
>> ```
>> cat memory.stat | grep file
>>    inactive_file 17858560
>>    active_file 5943296
>>
>> echo "100M" 0 > memory.reclaim
>>
>> cat memory.stat | grep file
>>    inactive_file 491520
>>    active_file 2764800
>> cat memory.reclaim_stat_summary
>>    [8251]sh total reclaimed 5230 file, 0 anon, covered item=0
>> ```
>>
>> Patch 1-3 implement the functionality described above.
>> Patch 4 aims to implement proactive reclamation to the cgroupv1 interface
>> for use on Android.
>>
>> Huan Yang (4):
>>    mm: vmscan: LRU unbalance cgroup reclaim
>>    mm: multi-gen LRU: MGLRU unbalance reclaim
>>    mm: memcg: implement unbalance proactive reclaim
>>    mm: memcg: apply proactive reclaim into cgroupv1
> We will not add new features to cgroupv1 in upstream.
Thx for point that. If this feature is worth further updating, the next 
patchset
will remove this patch.
>
>>   .../admin-guide/cgroup-v1/memory.rst          |  38 +++++-
>>   Documentation/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.rst       |  16 ++-
>>   include/linux/swap.h                          |   1 +
>>   mm/memcontrol.c                               | 126 ++++++++++++------
>>   mm/vmscan.c                                   |  38 +++++-
>>   5 files changed, 169 insertions(+), 50 deletions(-)
> --
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying

Thanks,
Huan Yang


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-08  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-08  6:58 Huan Yang
2023-11-08  6:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: LRU unbalance cgroup reclaim Huan Yang
2023-11-08  6:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: multi-gen LRU: MGLRU unbalance reclaim Huan Yang
2023-11-08 12:34   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-09 11:08   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-04  6:53   ` Dan Carpenter
2023-11-08  6:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: memcg: implement unbalance proactive reclaim Huan Yang
2023-11-08  6:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: memcg: apply proactive reclaim into cgroupv1 Huan Yang
2023-11-08 21:06   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-08  7:35 ` [RFC 0/4] Introduce unbalance proactive reclaim Huang, Ying
2023-11-08  7:53   ` Huan Yang [this message]
2023-11-08  8:09     ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-08  8:14       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08  8:21         ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08  9:00           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08  9:05             ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08  8:00 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08  8:26   ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08  8:59     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-11-08  9:12       ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 14:06 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09  1:56   ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09  3:15     ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-09  3:38       ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09  9:57         ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 10:29           ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 10:39             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 10:50               ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 12:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 13:07                   ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 13:46                     ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-10  3:48                       ` Huan Yang
2023-11-10 12:24                         ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-13  2:17                           ` Huan Yang
2023-11-13  6:10                             ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-13  6:28                               ` Huan Yang
2023-11-13  8:05                                 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-13  8:26                                   ` Huan Yang
2023-11-14  9:54                                     ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14  9:56                                       ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-15  6:52                                     ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-14  9:50                             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-10  1:19                 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10  2:44                   ` Huan Yang
2023-11-10  4:00                     ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10  6:21                       ` Huan Yang
2023-11-10 12:32                         ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-13  1:54                           ` Huan Yang
2023-11-14 10:04                             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 12:37                               ` Huan Yang
2023-11-14 13:03                                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-15  2:11                                   ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09  9:53     ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 10:55       ` Huan Yang
2023-11-09 12:45         ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 13:10           ` Huan Yang
2023-11-08 16:14 ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-09  1:58   ` Huan Yang

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