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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/40] mm: make VMA flag semantics explicit, eliminate VM_SPECIAL
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2026 00:06:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4d7d4c2-a1d5-41d0-b1c8-8ea0cc5a0397@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260917-b4-mmap-prepare-vma-flag-sanify-v3-0-4583d8a23bca@kernel.org>

On Thu, Sep 17, 2026, at 18:22, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
>
>  mm/vma.c                                   | 246 +++++++++++++++++++-------

Hi Lorenzo,

I see that in linux-next there is a new build failure in some
configurations in code that you are changing here:

mm/vma.c: In function '__mmap_region':
mm/vma.c:3083:1: error: the frame size of 1552 bytes is larger than 1536 bytes [-Werror=frame-larger-than=]

I don't immediately see anything that you did that would have introduced
something bad that wasn't already there, so it's likely just gone from
just below the limit I was using for my testing to just above. The 1536
byte limit is what I use on 64-bit builds with KASAN and otherwise
still has a clean build (with a small number of local fixup patches).

What I see is that this function has multiple structures on the
stack that have nontrivial sizes:

        VMA_ITERATOR(vmi, mm, addr); /* 104 bytes */
        MMAP_STATE(map, mm, &vmi, addr, len,...); /* 384 bytes */
        struct vm_area_desc desc; /* 128 bytes */

The config that caused this is https://pastebin.com/raw/5M95qHy5,
which is an x86-64 build with CONFIG_KASAN_STACK enabled, and likely
a few other configuration options that made it a little worse.
KASAN_STACK tends to double the stack size used by structures
in order to catch out-of-bounds accesses.

If I sprinkle some 'noinline_for_stack' annotations on functions
called by __mmap_region(), I can get the size down to 1144 in this
config, but that doesn't sound like a great workaround.

The large stack usage is potentially harmful if this ends up
in call chains that have additional large stack usage (e.g.
kmalloc() leading to reclaim). Any ideas for how to reduce it here?

     Arnd

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-25 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17 16:22 Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 01/40] mm/vma: fix mmap_prepare file handling, remove file_doesnt_need_get Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 15:21   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-23 15:46     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 15:59       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-24  2:20   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-24 10:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 16:28   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25  9:30     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 19:00   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-09-25  9:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 02/40] mm/vma: predicate setting mmap_prepare VMA fields on new vma alloc Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 15:32   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-23 15:53     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 16:09       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-23 17:07         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 17:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24  2:25   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 03/40] mm/vma: introduce and use vma_[flags_]can_merge() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 16:23   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-24  2:27   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-24 16:38   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 04/40] mm: consistently validate VMA state after mmap[_prepare] hooks Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 16:47   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-23 17:00     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24  2:52   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-24 10:06     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 17:17   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 12:51     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 05/40] mm/vma: ensure mmap_prepare doesn't set actions on a mergeable vma Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 18:00   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25  9:51     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 19:28   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-25  9:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-25  7:28   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-25  9:53     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 06/40] mm: make map_kernel_pages_[prepare,complete] internal and unexported Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 19:30   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-25  7:35     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 07/40] mm/vma: tidy up map kernel pages enum values Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 19:30   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-25  7:37     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 08/40] mm: add mmap action for discontiguous kernel page mapping Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-25 20:53   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 09/40] docs: filesystems: update mmap_prepare docs for discontig kernel pgs Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-25 21:01   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 10/40] drivers/usb/mon: update to use mmap_prepare + map kernel pages Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 11/40] infiniband: update hfi1 to use remap_vmalloc_range() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 12/40] selinux: reject writable opens of policy file, drop mmap shared/write check Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 13/40] ALSA: pcm: use vm_insert_page() to map PCM status page Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 14/40] bpf: arena: mark arena_map_mmap() mappings VM_MIXEDMAP Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 15/40] mm/vma: add vma[_flags]_is_kernel_owned() predicates Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 16/40] mm/vma: only allow mmap to clear VMA_MAYWRITE_BIT if kernel-owned Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 17/40] mm/vma: add and use vma_[flags]_is_fixed_mapping Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 18/40] scsi: sg: convert mmap hook to mmap_prepare and rework Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 19/40] fbdev: defio: assert FBINFO_VIRTFB, drop VM_IO, add VM_MIXEDMAP Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 20/40] HSI: cmt_speech: convert mmap hook to mmap_prepare, refactor Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 21/40] mm/gup: error out early on !VMA_MAYREAD_BIT VMAs Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 22/40] uprobes: remove VM_IO, set VM_MIXEDMAP for mapped kernel pages Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 23/40] mm/mlock: clear VMA_LOCKED_MASK over mmap callback Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 24/40] mm/mlock: eliminate weird VMA_IO_BIT abuse and simplify Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-23 20:06   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-24 10:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-24 15:50       ` Zi Yan
2026-09-25  9:35         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 25/40] mm/vma: enforce that only kernel-owned mappings may set VMA_IO_BIT Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 26/40] mm: remove VMA_IO_BIT check in vma[_flags]_is_kernel_owned() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 27/40] mm: remove hugetlb_inline.h Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 28/40] mm: rename is_vm_hugetlb_page() to vma_is_hugetlb() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 29/40] mm: drop some redundant checks around hugetlb VMAs Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 30/40] mm/madvise: update is_valid_guard_vma() to use vma_can_merge() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 31/40] mm/vma: introduce vma[_flags]_is_persistent() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 32/40] mm/uffd: use predicates for userfaultfd checks Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 33/40] mm/madvise: use predicates for madvise(..., MADV_DOFORK) Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 34/40] mm: eliminate VMA_SPECIAL_FLAGS usage when hugetlb explicitly tested Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 35/40] mm: eliminate VMA_SPECIAL_FLAGS check in lru_gen_look_around() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 36/40] mm: avoid use of VMA_SPECIAL_FLAGS in migrate_vma_setup() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 37/40] mm: eliminate VM_SPECIAL, VMA_SPECIAL_FLAGS Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 38/40] fuse: dax: do not set VM_MIXEDMAP Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 39/40] mm/huge_memory: remove vma_is_special_huge() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 16:22 ` [PATCH v3 40/40] mm/vma: introduce and use vma[_flags]_can_gup() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-17 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 00/40] mm: make VMA flag semantics explicit, eliminate VM_SPECIAL Andrew Morton
2026-09-23  8:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-25 15:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-25 22:06 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]

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