From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
x86@kernel.org, x86-cpuid@lists.linux.dev,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [x86/cpuid] Question regarding historic leaf 0x80000000 code
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 19:42:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4fcfd91-cc92-4b3c-9dd2-56ecd754cecc@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9xtfC5pL-g4LYvK@lx-t490>
On 20/03/2025 7:33 pm, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote:
> Hi hpa,
>
> As you probably know by now, we're working on a centralized "CPUID table"
> data model, on top of the cleanups at:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/x86-cpuid/20250304085152.51092-1-darwi@linutronix.de
> https://lore.kernel.org/x86-cpuid/20250319122137.4004-1-darwi@linutronix.de
> https://lore.kernel.org/x86-cpuid/20250312143738.458507-1-darwi@linutronix.de
>
> The idea is to remove all the direct CPUID queries from the x86 code, and
> access a pre-filled table instead (with caveats outside the scope of this
> question.)
>
> While changing the CPUID queries one by one, I've stumbled with:
>
> => arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c
> void get_cpu_cap(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c)
> {
> ...
> /* AMD-defined flags: level 0x80000001 */
> eax = cpuid_eax(0x80000000);
> c->extended_cpuid_level = eax;
>
> if ((eax & 0xffff0000) == 0x80000000) {
> if (eax >= 0x80000001) {
> cpuid(0x80000001, &eax, &ebx, &ecx, &edx);
>
> c->x86_capability[CPUID_8000_0001_ECX] = ecx;
> c->x86_capability[CPUID_8000_0001_EDX] = edx;
> }
> }
> ...
> }
>
> You've contributed that snippet here:
>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/history/history.git/commit/?h=2.4.0-test11pre5&id=67ad24e6d39c3
>
> Do you remember what was the rationale for the "if (eax & 0xffff0000) ==
> 0x80000000" check?
>
> You've also contriubted a similar check to head_32.S:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/1258154897-6770-2-git-send-email-hpa@zytor.com
>
> /* Check if extended functions are implemented */
> movl $0x80000000, %eax
> cpuid
> /* Value must be in the range 0x80000001 to 0x8000ffff */
> subl $0x80000001, %eax
> cmpl $(0x8000ffff-0x80000001), %eax
> ja .Lenable_paging
>
> So I would assume, it would be safe to have a similar check in our
> centralized "system CPUID table" scanner.
>
> In all cases, if you know more details, it would be great to know, so
> that I add it in the centralized CPUID table patch queue changelog (in a
> separate patch.)
The problem is that for an out-of-range leaf, Intel returns the data
from the maximum in-range leaf, rather than zeroes.
On pre-AMD64-capable Intel CPUs, you'll get what amounts to junk in a
query for leaf 0x80000000, where it's probably leaf 5 or so.
Checking for the upper half of the output matching the input is a way of
distinguishing Intel behaviour from all the other vendors.
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-20 19:42 UTC|newest]
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2025-03-20 19:33 Ahmed S. Darwish
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