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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: paulmck@kernel.org, Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, clm@meta.com, jstultz@google.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, sboyd@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH clocksource] Reject bogus watchdog clocksource measurements
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 13:29:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d54972a2-c328-d753-afc2-ff0f5cf726f3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221020140944.GK5600@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

On 10/20/22 10:09, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 04:09:01PM +0800, Feng Tang wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 04:09:04PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> One remaining clocksource-skew issue involves extreme CPU overcommit,
>>> which can cause the clocksource watchdog measurements to be delayed by
>>> tens of seconds.  This in turn means that a clock-skew criterion that
>>> is appropriate for a 500-millisecond interval will instead give lots of
>>> false positives.
>> I remembered I saw logs that the watchdog were delayed to dozens of
>> or hundreds of seconds.
>>
>> Thanks for the fix which makes sense to me! with some nits below.
>>
>>> Therefore, check for the watchdog clocksource reporting much larger or
>>> much less than the time specified by WATCHDOG_INTERVAL.  In these cases,
>>> print a pr_warn() warning and refrain from marking the clocksource under
>>> test as being unstable.
>>>
>>> Reported-by: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
>>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>>> Cc: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
>>> Cc: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/time/clocksource.c b/kernel/time/clocksource.c
>>> index 8058bec87acee..dcaf38c062161 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/time/clocksource.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/time/clocksource.c
>>> @@ -386,7 +386,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(clocksource_verify_percpu);
>>>   
>>>   static void clocksource_watchdog(struct timer_list *unused)
>>>   {
>>> -	u64 csnow, wdnow, cslast, wdlast, delta;
>>> +	u64 csnow, wdnow, cslast, wdlast, delta, wdi;
>>>   	int next_cpu, reset_pending;
>>>   	int64_t wd_nsec, cs_nsec;
>>>   	struct clocksource *cs;
>>> @@ -440,6 +440,17 @@ static void clocksource_watchdog(struct timer_list *unused)
>>>   		if (atomic_read(&watchdog_reset_pending))
>>>   			continue;
>>>   
>>> +		/* Check for bogus measurements. */
>>> +		wdi = jiffies_to_nsecs(WATCHDOG_INTERVAL);
>>> +		if (wd_nsec < (wdi >> 2)) {
>>> +			pr_warn("timekeeping watchdog on CPU%d: Watchdog clocksource '%s' advanced only %lld ns during %d-jiffy time interval, skipping watchdog check.\n", smp_processor_id(), watchdog->name, wd_nsec, WATCHDOG_INTERVAL);
>>> +			continue;
>>> +		}
>> If this happens (500ms timer happens only after less than 125ms),
>> there is some severe problem with timer/interrupt system.
> Should I add ", suspect timer/interrupt bug" just after "jiffy time
> interval"?  Or would a comment before that pr_warn() work better for you?
>
>>> +		if (wd_nsec > (wdi << 2)) {
>>> +			pr_warn("timekeeping watchdog on CPU%d: Watchdog clocksource '%s' advanced an excessive %lld ns during %d-jiffy time interval, probable CPU overutilization, skipping watchdog check.\n", smp_processor_id(), watchdog->name, wd_nsec, WATCHDOG_INTERVAL);
>>> +			continue;
>>> +		}
>> I agree with Waiman that some rate limiting may be needed. As there
>> were reports of hundreds of seconds of delay, 2 seconds delay could
>> easily happen if a system is too busy or misbehave to trigger this
>> problem.
> Good points, thank you both!
>
> Left to myself, I would use a capped power-of-two backoff that was reset
> any time that the interval was within bounds.  Maybe a cap of 10 minutes?

That sounds good to me.

Thanks,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-20 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-19 23:09 Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-20  3:01 ` Waiman Long
2022-10-20  8:09 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-20 14:09   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-20 17:29     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2022-10-21  0:46     ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28 17:52       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-28 17:52       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-31  5:59         ` Feng Tang
2022-10-31 17:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-01  5:43             ` Feng Tang
2022-11-01 19:06               ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-11-02  2:58                 ` Feng Tang

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