From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: Manuel Ebner <manuelebnerli@mailbox.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, oe-kbuild-all@lists.linux.dev,
linux-debuggers@vger.kernel.org, tools@linux.kernel.org,
"open list:DOCUMENTATION PROCESS" <workflows@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
Nicolas Schier <n.schier@fritz.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] changes.rst: introduce 'Required for'-column
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 22:41:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d57ce591-2399-4bd4-ae70-8fdabf63ae82@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261007163736.3942745-2-manuelebnerli@mailbox.org>
Hi,
On 10/7/26 9:37 AM, Manuel Ebner wrote:
> The optional tag isn't obvious nor defined. Therefore remove the tag and
> add column 'Required for' to make it easier to define the need for the tools.
>
> CC: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
> CC: Nicolas Schier <n.schier@fritz.com>
> ---
> If anybody has info to add to or refine the new column I would appreciate it a lot.
> Please forward this to list or people which can contribute to this patch.
>
> There's also the option to remove the 'Command to check the version'-column
> and refer to scripts/ver_linux - and with this also removing the duplicated
> information-issue.
>
> [v3]
> Rearange column space of the table in order to add column instead of replacing column
> add some requirements to the table
>
> [v2]
> Ditch footnotes in favor of a column
> Replace 'Check Version Command'-column with optional-column
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260831152523.638881-1-manuelebnerli@mailbox.org/
>
> [v1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260812122426.1636227-2-manuelebnerli@mailbox.org/
> ---
> Documentation/process/changes.rst | 97 ++++++++++++++++---------------
> 1 file changed, 51 insertions(+), 46 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/changes.rst b/Documentation/process/changes.rst
> index 28f2ca633..dafe0530f 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/changes.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/changes.rst
> @@ -1,13 +1,14 @@
> .. _changes:
>
> -Minimal requirements to compile the Kernel
> -++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> +Minimal requirements to interact with the Kernel
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Intro
> =====
>
> -This document is designed to provide a list of the minimum levels of
> -software necessary to run the current kernel version.
> +This document is designed to provide a list of the minimum versions of
> +software necessary to change code, compile, install and boot the current
> +kernel version.
>
> This document is originally based on my "Changes" file for 2.0.x kernels
> and therefore owes credit to the same people as that file (Jared Mauch,
> @@ -27,48 +28,52 @@ running a Linux kernel. Also, not all tools are necessary on all
> systems; obviously, if you don't have any PC Card hardware, for example,
> you probably do not need to concern yourself with pcmciautils.
>
> -====================== =============== ========================================
> - Program Minimal version Command to check the version
> -====================== =============== ========================================
> -bash 4.2 bash --version
> -bc 1.06.95 bc --version
> -bindgen (optional) 0.71.1 bindgen --version
> -binutils 2.30 ld -v
> -bison 2.0 bison --version
> -btrfs-progs 0.18 btrfs --version
> -Clang/LLVM (optional) 17.0.1 clang --version
> -e2fsprogs 1.41.4 e2fsck -V
> -flex 2.5.35 flex --version
> -gdb 7.2 gdb --version
> -GNU awk (optional) 5.1.0 gawk --version
> -GNU C 8.1 gcc --version
> -GNU make 4.0 make --version
> -GNU tar 1.28 tar --version
> -GRUB 0.93 grub --version || grub-install --version
> -gtags (optional) 6.6.5 gtags --version
> -iptables 1.4.2 iptables -V
> -jfsutils 1.1.3 fsck.jfs -V
> -kmod 13 kmod -V
> -mcelog 0.6 mcelog --version
> -mkimage (optional) 2017.01 mkimage --version
> -nfs-utils 1.0.5 showmount --version
> -openssl & libcrypto 1.0.0 openssl version
> -pahole 1.26 pahole --version
> -pcmciautils 004 pccardctl -V
> -pigz (optional) 2.4 pigz --version
> -PPP 2.4.0 pppd --version
> -procps 3.2.0 ps --version
> -Python 3.9.x python3 --version
> -quota-tools 3.09 quota -V
> -Rust (optional) 1.85.0 rustc --version
> -Sphinx\ [#f1]_ 3.4.3 sphinx-build --version
> -squashfs-tools 4.0 mksquashfs -version
> -udev 081 udevadm --version
> -util-linux 2.10o mount --version
> -xfsprogs 2.6.0 xfs_db -V
> -====================== =============== ========================================
> -
> -.. [#f1] Sphinx is needed only to build the Kernel documentation
> +============== ======== ======================= ========================================
> + Program Minimal Command to check Required for
> + version the version
> +============== ======== ======================= ========================================
> +bash 4.2 bash --version general requirement
> +bc 1.06.95 bc --version Kbuild (
Something missing after the '('?
> +bindgen 0.71.1 bindgen --version CONFIG_RUST=y
> +binutils 2.30 ld -v
> +bison 2.0 bison --version Kbuild (.config)
> +btrfs-progs 0.18 btrfs --version
> +Clang/LLVM 17.0.1 clang --version alternative to GNU C (gcc)
> +e2fsprogs 1.41.4 e2fsck -V ext4
> +flex 2.5.35 flex --version Kbuild (.config)
> +gdb 7.2 gdb --version Debugging
> +GNU awk 5.1.0 gawk --version objtool, CONFIG_SYSTEM_BLACKLIST_HASH_LIST=y
> +GNU C 8.1 gcc --version alternative to Clang/LLVM (clang)
> +GNU make 4.0 make --version
> +GNU tar 1.28 tar --version
> +GRUB 0.93 grub --version ||
> + grub-install --version
> +gtags 6.6.5 gtags --version to generate tag files through ``make gtags``
> +iptables 1.4.2 iptables -V
> +jfsutils 1.1.3 fsck.jfs -V
> +kmod 13 kmod -V
> +mcelog 0.6 mcelog --version
> +mkimage 2017.01 mkimage --version Flat Image Tree (FIT) or ARCH=arc, arm or powerpc
> +nfs-utils 1.0.5 showmount --version
> +openssl 1.0.0 openssl version
> +pahole 1.26 pahole --version
> +pcmciautils 004 pccardctl -V
> +pigz 2.4 pigz --version Compile and boot with KPGZIP=y
> +PPP 2.4.0 pppd --version
> +procps 3.2.0 ps --version
> +Python 3.9.x python3 --version
> +quota-tools 3.09 quota -V
> +Rust 1.85.0 rustc --version CONFIG_RUST=y
> +Sphinx 3.4.3 sphinx-build --version build kernel documentation
> +squashfs-tools 4.0 mksquashfs -version
> +udev 081 udevadm --version
> +util-linux 2.10o mount --version
> +xfsprogs 2.6.0 xfs_db -V
> +============== ======== ======================= ========================================
> + Program Minimal Command to check Required for
> + version check the version
> +============== ======== ======================= ========================================
On my build of 'make htmldocs', the table ending confuses docutils.
Did you build this with 'make htmldocs'?
Documentation/process/changes.rst:73: WARNING: Blank line required after table. [docutils]
Documentation/process/changes.rst:75: WARNING: Block quote ends without a blank line; unexpected unindent. [docutils]
Documentation/process/changes.rst:419: ERROR: Malformed table.
Bottom border or header rule does not match top border.
============== ======== ======================= ========================================
...
Getting updated software
======================== [docutils]
--
~Randy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-22 5:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-07 16:37 Manuel Ebner
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2026-10-22 9:36 ` Manuel Ebner
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