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From: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: sudeep.holla@arm.com, james.quinlan@broadcom.com,
	Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 07/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add notification dispatch and delivery
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 19:01:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d59c3f3e-324b-05fe-547d-1e64bf4c6a69@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e45e87e2-aaaf-c35b-b864-c080fd6e0ba6@arm.com>

Hi Lukasz

Thanks for your feedback !

On 21/02/2020 13:25, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> Hi Cristian,
> 
> I didn't want to jump into your discussion with Jim in other broader
> thread with this small thought, so I added a comment below.
> 
> On 2/14/20 3:35 PM, Cristian Marussi wrote:
>> Add core SCMI Notifications dispatch and delivery support logic which is
> [snip]
> 
>>   
>> @@ -840,6 +1071,11 @@ static struct scmi_notify_ops notify_ops = {
>>    */
>>   int scmi_notification_init(struct scmi_handle *handle)
>>   {
>> +	scmi_notify_wq = alloc_workqueue("scmi_notify",
>> +					 WQ_UNBOUND | WQ_FREEZABLE, 0);
> 
> I think it might limit some platforms. It depends on their workload.
> If they have some high priority workloads which rely on this mechanisms,
> they might need a RT task here. The workqueues would be scheduled in
> CFS, so it depends on workload in there (we might even see 10s ms delays
> in scheduling-up them). If we use RT we would grab the CPU from CFS.
> 
> It would be good if it is a customization option: which mechanism
> to use based on some a parameter. Then we could create:
> a) workqueue with the flags above
> b) workqueue with WQ_HIGHPRI (limited by minimum nice)
> c) kthread_create_worker() with RT/DL/FIFO sched policy
>    (with also a parameterized priority) 
> In default clients might use a) but when they want to tune their
> platform, they might change only a parameter in their scmi code,
> not maintaining a patch for the RT function out of tree.

In this series, I have not addressed configurability issues at all (as noted in the cover):
in fact I was thinking that stuff like WQ_HIGHPRI flags and per-protocol queue sizes could
be beneficial to be customizable depending on the specific platform, but I had not gone to
the extreme of thinking of adopting a dedicated RT kthread as a worker...good point...it
makes surely sense to have this configurable option to try to reduce the latency where possible.

I think it's important to give the user the possibility to configure the deferred worker
as you suggested, if the user decides to rely on Linux to handle a critical notification,
but I'd prefer queuing up this work you suggested on a different series on top of this one.
(which is starting to be a little to much voluminous...for being just the core support)

Regards

Cristian

> 
> Regards,
> Lukasz
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-21 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-14 15:35 [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] SCMI Notifications Core Support Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add receive buffer support for notifications Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Update protocol commands and notification list Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add notifications support in transport layer Cristian Marussi
2020-02-17 10:49   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add support for notifications message processing Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add notification protocol-registration Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add notification callbacks-registration Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add notification dispatch and delivery Cristian Marussi
2020-02-21 13:25   ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-21 19:01     ` Cristian Marussi [this message]
2020-02-21 19:11       ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-24  9:59         ` Lukasz Luba
2020-02-24 14:33           ` Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Enable notification core Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Power notifications support Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Perf " Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Sensor " Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Reset " Cristian Marussi
2020-02-14 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add Base " Cristian Marussi
2020-02-18 20:19 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] SCMI Notifications Core Support Jim Quinlan
2020-02-19 17:43   ` Cristian Marussi
2020-02-24 14:40   ` Cristian Marussi

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