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From: Ethan Zhao <etzhao1900@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	joro@8bytes.org, will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	rafael@kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org, bhelgaas@google.com,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	patches@lists.linux.dev, pjaroszynski@nvidia.com,
	vsethi@nvidia.com, helgaas@kernel.org, baolu.lu@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/4] Disable ATS via iommu during PCI resets
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 14:16:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7543795-b172-4452-8789-e1c810d8075a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250727162041.GC7551@nvidia.com>



On 7/28/2025 12:20 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 08:48:26PM +0800, Ethan Zhao wrote:
> 
>> At least, we can do some attempt in DPC and Hot-plug driver, and then
>> push the hardware specification update to provide pre-reset notification for
>> DPC & hotplug. does it make sense ?
> 
> I think DPC is a different case..
More complex and practical case.
> 
> If we get a DPC we should also push the iommu into blocking, disable
> ATS and abandon any outstanding ATC invalidations as part of
> recovering from the DPC. Once everythings is cleaned up we can set the
Yup, even pure software resets, there might be ATC invalidation pending
  (in software queue or HW queue).
> iommu back up again and allow the driver to recover the device.
> 
> I think the current series is a good step along that path, but we'd
> also need to improve the drivers to handle abandonding/aborting the
> ATC invalidations.
Also aborting ATC invalidation works as per-condition for DPC or 
Hot-plug cases. agree, such improvement seems necessary.
> 
> IMHO DPC and SW initiated reset are separate projects.
Of Course, Rome wasn't built in a day; I endorse the success philosophy 
of restricting project scope. The discussion is purely focused on 
technical methodology.

Thanks,
Ethan

> 
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-29  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-28  7:42 Nicolin Chen
2025-06-28  7:42 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/4] iommu: Lock group->mutex in iommu_deferred_attach Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 15:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-28  7:42 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/4] iommu: Pass in gdev to __iommu_device_set_domain Nicolin Chen
2025-07-04 15:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-28  7:42 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/4] iommu: Introduce iommu_dev_reset_prepare() and iommu_dev_reset_done() Nicolin Chen
2025-06-28 13:28   ` Baolu Lu
2025-06-30 12:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-30 17:29       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-06-30 22:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 15:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-22 21:58     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-23  2:21       ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-23  2:53         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-27 16:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-28 19:07         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-29 13:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-28  7:42 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/4] pci: Suspend iommu function prior to resetting a device Nicolin Chen
2025-07-24  6:50 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/4] Disable ATS via iommu during PCI resets Ethan Zhao
2025-07-25 16:41   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-07-27 12:48     ` Ethan Zhao
2025-07-27 16:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-29  6:16         ` Ethan Zhao [this message]
2025-07-29 12:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31  1:10             ` Ethan Zhao
2025-07-31 13:47               ` Jason Gunthorpe

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