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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Jo Van Bulck <jo.vanbulck@cs.kuleuven.be>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	sohil.mehta@intel.com
Cc: x86@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de, tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] x86/pti: Fix kernel warnings for pti= and nopti cmdline options.
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:42:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d76126be-9eda-d426-1fa5-a35fd4ca3d57@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <295ea2ef-3480-856b-b93a-9ae36f7b2286@cs.kuleuven.be>

On 8/11/23 16:27, Jo Van Bulck wrote:
> On 11.08.23 14:36, Jo Van Bulck wrote:>   static enum pti_mode {
>>       PTI_AUTO = 0,
>> +    PTI_FORCE_AUTO,
>>       PTI_FORCE_OFF,
>>       PTI_FORCE_ON
>>   } pti_mode;
> 
> I introduced a new PTI_FORCE_AUTO value here to make pti=auto override
> any mitigations=off parameter. However, I realize now that this may
> inadvertently affect other functions that test for pti_mode == PTI_AUTO
> (eg in pti_kernel_image_global_ok()).
> 
> Having 2 constants PTI_AUTO and PTI_FORCE_AUTO is arguably not very
> neat, so we should better get rid of this. I see several options:
> 
> - not have pti=auto override mitigations=off
> - have a global var to indicate pti= argument was passed
> - set pti_mode = PTI_AUTO in the pti_mode == PTI_FORCE_AUTO if branch
> 
> Not sure which option would best match kernel coding guidelines?

This sound like it's getting a bit out of hand and reaching far beyond
cleaning up some (mostly) harmless warnings.

I bet we have a billion command-line parameters that conflict with each
other.  mitigations=off and pti=auto is probably the least of our
worries.  Nobody in their right mind is going to say, oh, I *only* want
PTI, I don't care about any other mitigations.  That's nuts.

mitigations=off is the big hammer.  If you set that, you're basically
shouting from the rooftops, "moar speed!!"  You don't get security after
that.

pti=auto does *not* need to override mitigations=off.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-11 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-11 21:36 [PATCH v2 0/1] x86/pti: Fix kernel warnings for pti= and nopti cmdline Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-11 21:36 ` [PATCH 1/1] x86/pti: Fix kernel warnings for pti= and nopti cmdline options Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-11 23:27   ` Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-11 23:42     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-08-11 23:58       ` Sohil Mehta
2023-08-12  0:08         ` Dave Hansen
2023-08-12  0:15           ` Sohil Mehta
2023-08-12 15:53           ` Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-12 15:54 [PATCH v2 0/1] " Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-12 15:54 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Jo Van Bulck
2023-08-14 21:12   ` Sohil Mehta
2023-08-18 22:33     ` Jo Van Bulck

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