From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>,
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>
Cc: KPrateek.Nayak@amd.com, Vishal.Badole@amd.com,
klaus.kusche@computerix.info, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mario.limonciello@amd.com, mingo@redhat.com,
peterz@infradead.org, platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
ricardo.neri@intel.com, stable@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
yu.c.chen@intel.com, llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/cache: Honor asym packing over cache aware scheduling on hybrid system
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 10:51:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7cd3f7d528dff79d2a702543e7d97a44c0c078b.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260928195232.61319-1-kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
On Mon, 2026-09-28 at 22:52 +0300, Kayra Cizmeci wrote:
> Helloooo Tim,
>
> > A regression was reported on an AMD Ryzen AI HX 370 running a cache
> > intensive Clang full-LTO link. The little cores run at a much lower
> > frequency (3.3 GHz vs 5.1 GHz) and have only half of the L3 cache
> > (8 MB vs 16 MB), so pinning such a task to the little-core LLC hurts
> > twice, and full-LTO builds slow down dramatically compared to
> > pre-cache-aware-scheduling kernels.
>
> > Asym packing and cache aware scheduling express conflicting placement
> > strategy. Asym packing wants a task to run on the highest priority CPU,
> > whereas cache aware scheduling wants to co-locate the tasks of a process
> > on one LLC regardless of the priority of CPUs in that LLC.
>
> > When asym packing tries to migrate task to an empty
> > core that has higher priority than source cpu, let asym packing win.
> > Moving tasks to a higher performing idle core will buy more
> > performance than cache co-location.
>
>
> > +static inline bool sched_asym(struct sched_domain *sd, int dst_cpu, int src_cpu);
> > +
> > /*
> > * Check if task p can migrate from source LLC to
> > * destination LLC in terms of cache aware load balance.
> > @@ -10847,6 +10849,10 @@ static enum llc_mig can_migrate_llc_task(struct lb_env *env,
> > if (cpu < 0 || cpus_share_cache(src_cpu, dst_cpu))
> > return mig_unrestricted;
> >
> > + /* Prioritize asym packing over cache awareness */
> > + if (sched_asym(env->sd, dst_cpu, src_cpu))
> > + return mig_unrestricted;
> > +
> > /* skip cache aware load balance for too many threads */
> > if (invalid_llc_nr(grp, p, dst_cpu) ||
> > exceed_llc_capacity(grp, dst_cpu)) {
> > @@ -12043,6 +12049,15 @@ static inline bool llc_balance(struct lb_env *env, struct sg_lb_stats *sgs,
> > sgs->group_misfit_task_load)
> > return false;
> >
> > + /*
> > + * On asym packing domains, if the destination CPU
> > + * has higher priority than all CPUs in the source group,
> > + * prioritize asym packing.
> > + */
> > + if ((env->sd->flags & SD_ASYM_PACKING) &&
> > + sgs->group_asym_packing)
> > + return false;
> > +
> > /*
> > * Skip cache aware tagging if nr_balanced_failed is sufficiently high.
> > * Threshold of cache_nice_tries is set to 1 higher than nr_balance_failed
> > @@ -13458,12 +13473,12 @@ static int need_active_balance(struct lb_env *env)
> > {
> > struct sched_domain *sd = env->sd;
> >
> > - if (alb_break_llc(env))
> > - return 0;
> > -
> > if (asym_active_balance(env))
> > return 1;
> >
> > + if (alb_break_llc(env))
> > + return 0;
> > +
> > if (imbalanced_active_balance(env))
> > return 1;
>
> Hope I could test this. But I don't really have hardware for it :-(.
>
> Regardless tho.
>
> Let's say when entering can_migrate_llc_task(), dst_cpu is CPU0, while src_cpu is CPU1.
> And CPU0 has a bigger asym_prio than CPU1. No SMT. When entering can_migrate_llc_task() and sched_asym()
> from there sched_use_asym_prio() returns true without checking if the core is fully idle or not.
sched_asym() does check whether the destination core is idle in sched_use_asym_prio() for non SMT domain.
(false for non-SMT sd) (check idle core)
return sd->flags & SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY || is_core_idle(cpu);
That is also a pre-condition for setting group_asym_packing.
> And sched_asym_prefer() comes back true too, so sched_asym() returns true and, we just returned mig_unrestricted.
>
> I could be missing something, If I'm not tho is that on purpose? If it is, the last paragraph needs to change
> since it says that "asym packing tries to migrate task to an empty core" and after that "higher performing idle core"
I think I did try to point out the idle core aspect in my commit log:
"When asym packing tries to migrate task to an empty
core that has higher priority than source cpu, let asym packing win.
Moving tasks to a higher performing idle core will buy more
performance than cache co-location."
I am not sure how you would like it changed.
Thanks.
Tim
>
> Thanks,
> Kayra
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-29 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-28 18:37 Tim Chen
2026-09-28 19:52 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-29 17:51 ` Tim Chen [this message]
2026-09-29 18:21 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-29 20:08 ` Tim Chen
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