From: Wesley Cheng <wesley.cheng@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@intel.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
Michal Pecio <michal.pecio@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-sound@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] Add larger page size support for USB audio offload path
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 15:23:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7ce8b23-64c0-43dd-a8c8-268224b9462c@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260909-16k_offload_v1_b4-v4-0-f24a86617597@oss.qualcomm.com>
On 9/9/2026 6:50 PM, Wesley Cheng wrote:
> On some environments, 16kB pages can be enabled from the Linux subsystem,
> which manages the IOMMU mappings for the audio DSP within the system. In
> the current design, the following assumptions break when 16k pages are
> utilized:
> 1. xHCI ring size is equal to PAGE_SIZE
> 2. Ring addresses start at the beginning of a page
>
> When the USB offload driver maps the rings (w/ the audio DSP SID), it is
> set with a 16k granular, which is a problem, as several xHCI rings could
> exist on the same page. This is because the rings are currently allocated
> from the segment_pool. Hence, potentially mapping non USB audio related
> rings into the region accessible by the audio DSP.
>
> To mitigate this, this series introduces a separate segment_pool
> associated to a sideband ring. Before the USB audio offload path
> is enabled, the USB audio data streams/endpoint are not active. Only when
> the class driver issues a usb_set_interface() call (done from
> snd_usb_endpoint_prepare()), will the xHCI allocate the transfer ring
> resources. Which pool is selected is all based on if the sideband path
> is being enabled, and if so, memory can be allocated from that pool,
> which expects to be owned in conjunction with the audio DSP. This
> concept allows to keep the same model existing in xHCI, where multiple
> 4k segments can reside on the same page, which reduces potentially over
> allocating based on the page size.
>
> Likewise this mechanism also allows for the offload client driver to
> determine which SID is associated to the segment_pool if it decides to
> map outside of the Linux subsystem. The new ring allocation flow for
> sideband/offload clients will be as follows:
>
> qc_usb_audio_offload_probe()
> ├─ segment_pool = dma_pool_create(...)
> ▼
> xhci_sideband_register(intf, XHCI_SIDEBAND_VENDOR, segment_pool, notify_client)
> │ sb->segment_pool = segment_pool
> ▼
> uadev[card_num].sb = sb
>
> handle_uaudio_stream_req()
> ▼
> enable_audio_stream(subs, ..., pcm_card_num)
> ├─ data_ep = uaudio_find_host_endpoint(subs, subs->data_endpoint)
> ├─ xhci_sideband_add_endpoint(sb, data_ep) ← ep->sideband = sb; sb->eps[ep_index] = ep
> ├─ snd_usb_endpoint_prepare(chip, sync_endpoint) ─┐
> ├─ snd_usb_endpoint_prepare(chip, data_endpoint) ├─→ xhci_check_bandwidth()
> │ ▼
> │ xhci_endpoint_init(xhci, virt_dev, ep, ...)
> │ pool = sideband ? sideband->segment_pool : xhci->segment_pool
> │ new_ring = xhci_ring_alloc_from_pool(..., pool, ...)
> │ ▼
> │ xhci_ring_alloc_from_pool(..., pool, flags)
> │ ring->segment_pool = pool
> │ ▼
> │ xhci_alloc_segments_for_ring(xhci, ring, flags)
> │ xhci_segment_alloc(xhci, ring->segment_pool, max_packet, num, flags)
> │ ▼
> │ xhci_segment_alloc(xhci, pool, max_packet, num, flags)
> │ seg->trbs = dma_pool_zalloc(pool, flags, &dma)
> ▼
> xhci_sideband_get_endpoint_buffer(sb, data_ep) → xhci_ring_to_sgtable()
>
> qc_usb_audio_offload_disconnect() / unreg_xhci:
> ├─ segment_pool = sb->segment_pool
> ├─ xhci_sideband_unregister(sb)
> ▼
> dma_pool_destroy(segment_pool)
>
> Similar logic is added for the secondary interrupter path as well. The USB
> offload class driver calls xhci_sideband_create_interrupter(), which will
> be responsible for allocating the secondary event ring.
>
> There is one point that was seen during disconnecting the USB audio
> device while audio offload was active, where the offload client driver
> was pre-maturely freeing the DMA pool before xHCI core was able to free
> the DMA memory allocated for the rings. This is the reason for needing
> to explicitly call the ring free during the sideband unregister path.
>
> This was confirmed to work on the SM8350 MTP platform, with the
> CONFIG_ARM64_16K_PAGES config enabled, alongside tinyaudio binaries:
>
> tinymix -D 0 set 513 1 (Enables USB_RX multimedia#1 path)
> tinyplay -D 0 -d 0.... (Routes PCM data to ASoC platform sound card)
>
> Signed-off-by: Wesley Cheng <wesley.cheng@oss.qualcomm.com>
Hi Mathias,
Just checking to see if there was anything that we needed to account for in
this series? I think there was the discussion that came up here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/TYUPR06MB6217000B59003EDF233D7246D2B22@TYUPR06MB6217.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com/
But, I think your suggestion about adding the sideband check in the
xhci_setup_device() would mitigate that problem. Esp, if we don't want
xHCI core to really know about sideband ops.
Thanks
Wesley Cheng
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-30 22:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-10 1:50 Wesley Cheng
2026-09-10 1:50 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] usb: xhci: sideband: fix ring sg table for sub-page TRB segments Wesley Cheng
2026-09-10 1:50 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] usb: xhci: Allow to specify a different segment pool for allocations Wesley Cheng
2026-09-10 1:50 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] usb: xhci: sideband: allocate sideband ring segments from a dedicated pool Wesley Cheng
2026-10-05 11:03 ` Mathias Nyman
2026-10-13 1:01 ` Wesley Cheng
2026-10-13 9:11 ` Michal Pecio
2026-10-13 22:53 ` Wesley Cheng
2026-10-14 9:17 ` Michal Pecio
2026-10-14 14:26 ` Mathias Nyman
2026-10-15 0:44 ` Wesley Cheng
2026-10-20 23:13 ` Wesley Cheng
2026-10-27 20:19 ` Wesley Cheng
2026-09-10 1:51 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: tag sideband endpoints before ring allocation Wesley Cheng
2026-09-10 1:51 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: fix xfer ring IOMMU unmap on 16K+ page kernels Wesley Cheng
2026-09-30 22:23 ` Wesley Cheng [this message]
2026-10-01 22:33 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Add larger page size support for USB audio offload path Mathias Nyman
2026-10-02 1:42 ` Wesley Cheng
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