From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
linux-pm <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>,
JB <jb_lescher@sigmadesigns.com>, Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state()
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:35:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8c15114-636d-79bb-883e-d2d4439f755d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170716134116.wxwb3gevbhlereij@piout.net>
On 07/16/2017 06:41 AM, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> On 06/07/2017 at 05:18:19 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> On Sat 2017-07-15 20:33:58, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
>>> On 15/07/2017 at 10:20:27 -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>>> We already have
>>>>>
>>>>> struct regulator_state {
>>>>> int uV; /* suspend voltage */
>>>>> unsigned int mode; /* suspend regulator operating mode */
>>>>> int enabled; /* is regulator enabled in this suspend state */
>>>>> int disabled; /* is the regulator disabled in this suspend state */
>>>>> };
>>>>>
>>>>> * struct regulation_constraints - regulator operating constraints.
>>>>> * @state_disk: State for regulator when system is suspended in disk
>>>>> * mode.
>>>>> * @state_mem: State for regulator when system is suspended in mem
>>>>> * mode.
>>>>> * @state_standby: State for regulator when system is suspended in
>>>>> * standby
>>>>> * mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> . So it seems that maybe we should tell the drivers if we are entering
>>>>> "state_mem" or "state_standby" (something I may have opposed, sorry),
>>>>> then the driver can get neccessary information from regulator
>>>>> framework.
>>>>
>>>> OK, so what would be the mechanism to tell these drivers about the
>>>> system wide suspend state they are entering if it is not via
>>>> platform_suspend_target_state()?
>>>>
>>>> Keep in mind that regulators might be one aspect of what could be
>>>> causing the platform to behave specifically in one suspend state vs.
>>>> another, but there could be pieces of HW within the SoC that can't be
>>>> described with power domains, voltage islands etc. that would still have
>>>> inherent suspend states properties (like memory retention, pin/pad
>>>> controls etc. etc). We still need some mechanism, possibly centralized
>>>>
>>>
>>> I concur, the regulator stuff is one aspect of one of our suspend state
>>> (cutting VDDcore). But we have another state where the main clock (going
>>> to the IPs) is going from a few hundred MHz to 32kHz. This is currently
>>> handled by calling at91_suspend_entering_slow_clock(). I think it is
>>> important to take that into account so we can remove this hack from the
>>> kernel.
>>
>> Cure should not be worse then the disease... and it is in this case.
>>
>> For clocks, take a look at clock framework, perhaps it already has "clock_will_be_suspended"
>> as regulator framework had. If not, implement it.
>>
>
> See Rafael's comment, currently, the clock framework can't say whether
> the clock will change because it doesn't know anything about the suspend
> target.
>
>> Same with memory retention, pin/pad controls.
>>
>
> Same here.
Exactly, here is another side effect of not knowing the platform
suspend/state that I came across on our platforms:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9561575/
(we later discussed this in details with Linus and this is why this very
patch set is being introduced now)
--
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-16 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2017-06-23 1:08 ` [RFC 0/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23 1:08 ` [RFC 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-12 18:08 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-14 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 6:28 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 12:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 16:46 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 17:20 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 18:33 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-06 3:18 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 13:41 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 15:35 ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2017-07-15 23:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:34 ` Mason
2017-07-15 23:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 2:36 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 13:38 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 18:24 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 23:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-06 3:17 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 10:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 18:22 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-23 1:08 ` [RFC 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 2:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 2:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-06 3:18 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 2:36 ` [PATCH 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:06 ` [PATCH v2] PM / suspend: Add suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:16 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 21:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 21:21 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-20 8:03 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v3] PM / suspend: Export pm_suspend_target_state Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 23:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-18 0:19 ` [PATCH v4] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-24 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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