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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] cgroup/cpuset: Fix race between newly created partition and dying one
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 16:56:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8d7c633-a9e3-4990-8904-4c7710894789@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9c96490-98bf-406b-8324-6cf86a536433@redhat.com>


On 4/1/25 4:41 PM, Waiman Long wrote:
>
> On 4/1/25 3:59 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Hello, Waiman.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:12:06PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>> The problem is the RCU delay between the time a cgroup is killed and 
>>> is in a
>>> dying state and when the partition is deactivated when 
>>> cpuset_css_offline()
>>> is called. That delay can be rather lengthy depending on the current
>>> workload.
>> If we don't have to do it too often, synchronize_rcu_expedited() may be
>> workable too. What do you think?
>
> I don't think we ever call synchronize_rcu() in the cgroup code except 
> for rstat flush. In fact, we didn't use to have an easy way to know if 
> there were dying cpusets hanging around. Now we can probably use the 
> root cgroup's nr_dying_subsys[cpuset_cgrp_id] to know if we need to 
> use synchronize_rcu*() call to wait for it. However, I still need to 
> check if there is any racing window that will cause us to miss it.

Sorry, I don't think I can use synchronize_rcu_expedited() as the use 
cases that I am seeing most often is the creation of isolated partitions 
running latency sensitive applications like DPDK. Using 
synchronize_rcu_expedited() will send IPIs to all the CPUs which may 
break the required latency guarantee for those applications. Just using 
synchronize_rcu(), however, will have unpredictable latency impacting 
user experience.

>
>>
>>> Another alternative that I can think of is to scan the remote 
>>> partition list
>>> for remote partition and sibling cpusets for local partition 
>>> whenever some
>>> kind of conflicts are detected when enabling a partition. When a dying
>>> cpuset partition is detected, deactivate it immediately to resolve the
>>> conflict. Otherwise, the dying partition will still be deactivated at
>>> cpuset_css_offline() time.
>>>
>>> That will be a bit more complex and I think can still get the 
>>> problem solved
>>> without adding a new method. What do you think? If you are OK with 
>>> that, I
>>> will send out a new patch later this week.
>> If synchronize_rcu_expedited() won't do, let's go with the original 
>> patch.
>> The operation does make general sense in that it's for a distinctive 
>> step in
>> the destruction process although I'm a bit curious why it's called 
>> before
>> DYING is set.
>
Because of the above, I still prefer either using the original patch or 
scanning for dying cpuset partitions in case a conflict is detected. 
Please let me know what you think about it.

Thanks,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-01 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-30 21:52 [PATCH 00/10] cgroup/cpuset: Miscellaneous partition bug fixes and enhancements Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 01/10] cgroup/cpuset: Fix race between newly created partition and dying one Waiman Long
2025-03-31 23:13   ` Tejun Heo
2025-04-01  3:12     ` Waiman Long
2025-04-01 19:59       ` Tejun Heo
2025-04-01 20:41         ` Waiman Long
2025-04-01 20:56           ` Waiman Long [this message]
2025-04-02  7:49   ` Tejun Heo
2025-04-03 13:34     ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-03 16:15       ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 02/10] cgroup/cpuset: Fix incorrect isolated_cpus update in update_parent_effective_cpumask() Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 03/10] cgroup/cpuset: Fix error handling in remote_partition_disable() Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 04/10] cgroup/cpuset: Remove remote_partition_check() & make update_cpumasks_hier() handle remote partition Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 05/10] cgroup/cpuset: Don't allow creation of local partition over a remote one Waiman Long
2025-04-03 13:33   ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-03 13:48     ` Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 06/10] cgroup/cpuset: Code cleanup and comment update Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 07/10] cgroup/cpuset: Remove unneeded goto in sched_partition_write() and rename it Waiman Long
2025-04-03 13:33   ` Michal Koutný
2025-04-03 13:49     ` Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 08/10] selftest/cgroup: Update test_cpuset_prs.sh to use | as effective CPUs and state separator Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 09/10] selftest/cgroup: Clean up and restructure test_cpuset_prs.sh Waiman Long
2025-03-30 21:52 ` [PATCH 10/10] selftest/cgroup: Add a remote partition transition test to test_cpuset_prs.sh Waiman Long
2025-03-31 23:28   ` Tejun Heo

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