From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Qing Wang <wangqing7171@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Li Chen <chenl311@chinatelecom.cn>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Replace random newidle_balance with Bresenham accumulator
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 10:59:39 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <da1896b3-6bec-4b56-bf6d-9ce775b00b8d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260506024455.2799069-1-wangqing7171@gmail.com>
Hello Qing,
On 5/6/2026 8:14 AM, Qing Wang wrote:
> The current NI_RANDOM implementation uses a random dice roll to allow
> newidle_balance attempts according to the success rate. There is a better
> way to implememte it.
>
> Replace the random dice with a Bresenham accumulator that distributes the
> allowed attempts with uniformly spaced evenly across a 1024-step window:
>
> Each step do those:
> - Accumulate (1 + newidle_ratio) into newidle_window_pos.
> - If the accumulator reaches 1024, allow the balance attempt and
> subtract 1024.
>
> This guarantees exactly (1 + newidle_ratio) newidle_balance per 1024 steps
> and per newidle_balance with uniformly spaced for any ratio in [0, 1023].
I took the most sensitive workload I have for newidle balance (tbench)
and took it for a spin with these changes. Following are the results:
Clients: tip bresenham_accm
1 321.65 (0.00 pct) 313.97 (-2.38 pct)
2 641.92 (0.00 pct) 638.74 (-0.49 pct)
4 1245.65 (0.00 pct) 1237.26 (-0.67 pct)
8 2435.80 (0.00 pct) 2442.23 ( 0.26 pct)
16 4717.66 (0.00 pct) 4688.19 (-0.62 pct)
32 9303.53 (0.00 pct) 9390.71 ( 0.93 pct)
64 18002.57 (0.00 pct) 17911.56 (-0.50 pct)
128 27729.26 (0.00 pct) 27621.95 (-0.38 pct)
256 47134.77 (0.00 pct) 46137.36 (-2.11 pct)
512 43179.41 (0.00 pct) 43277.53 ( 0.22 pct)
1024 40339.30 (0.00 pct) 40176.49 (-0.40 pct)
The %diff is in noise range which is a good indication that there
shouldn't be any surprises. I'll queue a run overnight to see if
there are other benchmarks that like / dislike these changes.
I'll let Peter comment on the change itself since he knows these
bits best ;-)
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-13 5:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-07 16:06 [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Revert max_newidle_lb_cost bump Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to sched_balance_newidle() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-10 14:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 14:37 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 14:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:28 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 10:22 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 13:11 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to update_newidle_cost() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional newidle balance Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-11 9:07 ` Adam Li
2025-11-11 9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 12:04 ` Adam Li
2025-11-12 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:42 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:18 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23 ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-18 20:46 ` [PATCH 4/4] " Mario Roy
2026-01-23 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 12:24 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28 4:08 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-27 4:15 ` Mario Roy
2026-01-27 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 1:44 ` Mario Roy
2026-01-30 4:14 ` Mario Roy
2026-02-24 9:13 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: More complex proportional " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-25 12:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional " Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 15:48 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-29 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-29 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 16:12 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-30 13:16 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-02 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 11:07 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 12:45 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 13:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 13:59 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 14:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 22:48 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 16:24 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-28 16:03 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-04-29 8:51 ` Qing Wang
2026-05-06 2:44 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Replace random newidle_balance with Bresenham accumulator Qing Wang
2026-05-13 2:21 ` Qing Wang
2026-05-13 5:29 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-05-14 2:22 ` Qing Wang
2026-06-02 5:46 ` [PATCH v2] " Qing Wang
2025-11-10 19:47 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Chris Mason
2025-11-11 19:08 ` Josh Don
2025-11-12 21:59 ` Chris Mason
2025-11-14 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
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