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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Hajime Tazaki <thehajime@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-um@lists.infradead.org, ricarkol@google.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, 	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v11 10/13] um: nommu: a work around for MMU dependency to PCI driver
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 11:38:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da39f51b76cca54e5304064f7e34a8863442605d.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27bxu949d.wl-thehajime@gmail.com> (sfid-20250919_113237_926194_6AC3D71B)

On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 18:32 +0900, Hajime Tazaki wrote:
> currently, drivers/pci/Kconfig (CONFIG_PCI) marks as depends on MMU,

Right.

> so we cannot select it when CONFIG_MMU=n.

Actually, I believe that's not true, I think it *can* select something
even if you override the 'depends on' it has, it just causes a warning
in Kconfig.

But I don't think PCI is even selected, UML_PCI is selected, and then
that selects PCI_MSI which should really only be reachable when PCI is
enabled, so this perhaps does nothing? Not sure ...

> but it's different with kunit when using them via kunit.py config,

It really isn't, you just don't see everything because kunit.py hides
the build from you.

> it first adds
> 
>  CONFIG_VIRTIO_UML=y
>  CONFIG_UML_PCI_OVER_VIRTIO=y
> 
> via tools/testing/kunit/configs/arch_uml.config, and then add
> 
>  CONIFG_MMU=n
> 
> via --kconfig_add CONFIG_MMU=n.

Sure. But that should disable CONFIG_UML_PCI_OVER_VIRTIO, and it doesn't
now.

> and then execute make ARCH=um olddefconfig, which in turn enables
> CONFIG_UML_PCI_OVER_VIRTIO.

Keeps it, let's say.

> if we append "--kconfig_add CONFIG_UML_PCI_OVER_VIRTIO=n" to kunit.py,
> it will overwrite the arch_uml.config.

Yeah but that being required doesn't make sense - the Kconfig should
express the correct dependencies.

> # I don't know how kunit handles those appended CONFIG entries, though..

It just puts them into the file and runs oldconfig, I guess?

> my goal is simple; to test !MMU code via kunit.

Sure.

> my original patch or the additional kconfig argument (--kconfig_add)
> satisfies this goal.

Sure. But both are the wrong solution, as I said, the Kconfig should
express the correct dependencies.

> > The problem is probably UML_PCI_OVER_VIRTIO selecting UML_PCI selecting
> > various PCI code, but nothing depends on PCI in the first place. Which
> > it should, then?
> 
> I don't understand the 'nothing depends on PCI...' part.  care to
> elaborate ?

See above, I think?

My gut feeling is that UML_PCI_OVER_VIRTIO should depend on PCI but I
don't know if that then doesn't end up in some kind of circular
dependency.

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-18  7:38 [PATCH RESEND v11 00/13] nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:38 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 01/13] x86/um: nommu: elf loader for fdpic Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:38 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 02/13] um: decouple MMU specific code from the common part Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:38 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 03/13] um: nommu: memory handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:38 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 04/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 05/13] um: nommu: seccomp syscalls hook Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 06/13] x86/um: nommu: process/thread handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 07/13] um: nommu: configure fs register on host syscall invocation Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 08/13] x86/um/vdso: nommu: vdso memory update Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 09/13] x86/um: nommu: signal handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 10/13] um: nommu: a work around for MMU dependency to PCI driver Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  8:30   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-19  0:03     ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-19  7:24       ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-19  9:32         ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-19  9:38           ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2025-09-19  9:38             ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-19  9:43             ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-19 23:46             ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-22  6:32               ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-23 23:44                 ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-23 15:42           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-23 17:13             ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-23 23:51               ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-24  8:02                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-24 11:03                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-24 23:27                   ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 11/13] um: change machine name for uname output Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 12/13] um: nommu: add documentation of nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18  7:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 13/13] um: nommu: plug nommu code into build system Hajime Tazaki
2025-09-18 10:39 ` [PATCH RESEND v11 00/13] nommu UML Lorenzo Stoakes

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