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From: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] sched/numa: Don't update mm->numa_next_scan from fault path
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 14:40:15 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbb74941-4d6c-3e5a-2f5c-d18001c2856c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211005082335.GN3891@suse.de>


On 10/5/2021 1:53 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 04:27:06PM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
>> p->numa_scan_period is typically scaled up or down from
>> the fault path and mm->numa_next_scan is updated during
>> scanning from the task_work context using cmpxchg.
>>
>> However there is one case where the scan period is increased
>> in the fault path, but mm->numa_next_scan
>>
>>  - is immediately updated and
>>  - updated without using cmpxchg
>>
>> Both of the above don't seem intended and hence remove
>> the updation of mm->numa_next_scan from the fault path
>> Updation should happen from task_work context subsequently.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
> 
> I believe the update was intended because it aims to reduce scanning
> when the task is either completely idle or activity is in memory ranges
> that are not influenced by numab. What is the user-visible impact you
> observe?

I haven't measured, it just appeared unintended when glancing at
the code, but now you have clarified it.

> 
> My expectation is that in some cases this will increase the number of
> PTE updates and migrations. It may even be a performance gain for some
> workloads if it increases locality but in cases where locality is poor
> (e.g. heavily shared regions or cross-node migrations), there will be a
> loss due to increased numab activity.

Thanks, I will check if I can measure and verify the above.

> 
> Updating via cmpxchg would be ok to avoid potential collisions between
> threads updating a shared mm.

Ok, may be I could just resend with changing the scan period update
to use cmpxchg.

I also notice that in this case of scan period update, we just return
without resetting the p->numa_faults_locality[]. Do you think if
skipping the reset doesn't matter in this case?

Regards,
Bharata.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-04 10:57 [PATCH 0/4] A few autonuma cleanups Bharata B Rao
2021-10-04 10:57 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/numa: Replace hard-coded number by a define in numa_task_group() Bharata B Rao
2021-10-05  8:18   ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-09 10:07   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Bharata B Rao
2021-10-14 11:16   ` tip-bot2 for Bharata B Rao
2021-10-04 10:57 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/numa: Remove the redundant member numa_group::fault_cpus Bharata B Rao
2021-10-05  8:21   ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-09 10:07   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Bharata B Rao
2021-10-14 11:16   ` tip-bot2 for Bharata B Rao
2021-10-04 10:57 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/numa: Fix a few comments Bharata B Rao
2021-10-05  8:22   ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-09 10:07   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Bharata B Rao
2021-10-14 11:16   ` tip-bot2 for Bharata B Rao
2021-10-04 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] sched/numa: Don't update mm->numa_next_scan from fault path Bharata B Rao
2021-10-05  8:23   ` Mel Gorman
2021-10-05  9:10     ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2021-10-07 10:25       ` Mel Gorman

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