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From: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	"Maloor, Kishen" <kishen.maloor@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com" <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	"dedekind1@gmail.com" <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 09:17:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ddba739a-b4b5-4c0f-84f1-803857f34179@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5168e058946a61f3be1cdb13f886dd632739d312.camel@intel.com>

On 9/23/2026 9:09 AM, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-09-23 at 08:57 +0800, Binbin Wu wrote:
>>> But directly configurable bits don't have any direct conntion to tdcall
>>> queried bits. Userspace can still set those to whatever it wants regardless
>>> of the allow list. 
>>
>> I didn't quite get this.
> 
> VE bits don't query the directly configurable bits in any case unless userspace
> sets it up that way. So they are not involved in the problem we are trying to
> fix here.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> So the argument is basically there is not expected to be any reason to allow
>>> them, so save the code in the allow list. It's a "there is no point" reason.
>>> Makes sense, but I couldn't get that from explanation.
>>
>> I think "not just save the code"?
>> One argument is that if these bits are reported as allowed to userspace and
>> userspace enabled them during init, and the guest doesn't opt-in the #VE
>> reduction (KVM doesn't know the real setting), it would cause problem in the
>> guest.
> 
> Userspace is allowed to cause problems to the guest. We shouldn't try to prevent
> it. 

But userspace doesn't know these bits are not supported by TDX module and KVM.
If KVM report them as supported, and it causes problems, we cannot say it's
userspace's fault.

> But here, I think we are saving lines of allowlist in preventing it. So the
> reason is to have less allow list lines, not to help userspace. And that is
> worth it IMO.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17  7:25 [PATCH v4 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:14     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:45       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:57         ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  1:09           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  1:17             ` Binbin Wu [this message]
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] KVM: TDX: Report CORE_CAPABILITIES as configurable Binbin Wu
2026-09-22 21:11   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:03     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] KVM: TDX: Filter configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23  0:28     ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:34       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-17  7:25 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] KVM: TDX: Validate userspace CPUID input for KVM_TDX_INIT_VM Binbin Wu
2026-09-23  0:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P

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