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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: paulmck@kernel.org, Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 06/10] rcu/hotplug: Make rcutree_dead_cpu() parallel
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 13:26:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de70b840-df04-5a52-c36f-9eaed839aa7c@joelfernandes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220824162050.GA6159@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>



On 8/24/2022 12:20 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 09:53:11PM +0800, Pingfan Liu wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:01 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 09:50:56AM +0800, Pingfan Liu wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 07:45:28PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 10:15:16AM +0800, Pingfan Liu wrote:
>>>>>> In order to support parallel, rcu_state.n_online_cpus should be
>>>>>> atomic_dec()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to ask...  What testing have you subjected this patch to?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This patch subjects to [1]. The series aims to enable kexec-reboot in
>>>> parallel on all cpu. As a result, the involved RCU part is expected to
>>>> support parallel.
>>>
>>> I understand (and even sympathize with) the expectation.  But results
>>> sometimes diverge from expectations.  There have been implicit assumptions
>>> in RCU about only one CPU going offline at a time, and I am not sure
>>> that all of them have been addressed.  Concurrent CPU onlining has
>>> been looked at recently here:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jymsaCPQ1PUDcfjIKm0UIbVdrJAaGX-6cXrmcfm0PRU/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> You did us atomic_dec() to make rcu_state.n_online_cpus decrementing be
>>> atomic, which is good.  Did you look through the rest of RCU's CPU-offline
>>> code paths and related code paths?
>>
>> I went through those codes at a shallow level, especially at each
>> cpuhp_step hook in the RCU system.
> 
> And that is fine, at least as a first step.
> 
>> But as you pointed out, there are implicit assumptions about only one
>> CPU going offline at a time, I will chew the google doc which you
>> share.  Then I can come to a final result.
> 
> Boqun Feng, Neeraj Upadhyay, Uladzislau Rezki, and I took a quick look,
> and rcu_boost_kthread_setaffinity() seems to need some help.  As it
> stands, it appears that concurrent invocations of this function from the
> CPU-offline path will cause all but the last outgoing CPU's bit to be
> (incorrectly) set in the cpumask_var_t passed to set_cpus_allowed_ptr().
> 
> This should not be difficult to fix, for example, by maintaining a
> separate per-leaf-rcu_node-structure bitmask of the concurrently outgoing
> CPUs for that rcu_node structure.  (Similar in structure to the
> ->qsmask field.)
> 
> There are probably more where that one came from.  ;-)

Should rcutree_dying_cpu() access to rnp->qsmask have a READ_ONCE() ? I was
thinking grace period initialization or qs reporting paths racing with that. Its
just tracing, still :)

Thanks,

- Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-24 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-22  2:15 [RFC 00/10] arm64/riscv: Introduce fast kexec reboot Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 01/10] cpu/hotplug: Make __cpuhp_kick_ap() ready for async Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 02/10] cpu/hotplug: Compile smp_shutdown_nonboot_cpus() conditioned on CONFIG_SHUTDOWN_NONBOOT_CPUS Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 03/10] cpu/hotplug: Introduce fast kexec reboot Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 04/10] cpu/hotplug: Check the capability of kexec quick reboot Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 05/10] perf/arm-dsu: Make dsu_pmu_cpu_teardown() parallel Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 06/10] rcu/hotplug: Make rcutree_dead_cpu() parallel Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:45   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-23  1:50     ` Pingfan Liu
2022-08-23  3:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-24 13:53         ` Pingfan Liu
2022-08-24 16:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-24 17:26             ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2022-08-24 19:21               ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-24 22:54                 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-24 23:01                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-31 16:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-05  3:53               ` Pingfan Liu
2022-09-06 18:45                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-22 18:08   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-23  1:56     ` Pingfan Liu
2022-08-23  3:14       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-24 13:38         ` Pingfan Liu
2022-08-24 13:44       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 07/10] lib/cpumask: Introduce cpumask_not_dying_but() Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22 14:15   ` Yury Norov
2022-08-23  7:29     ` Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 08/10] cpuhp: Replace cpumask_any_but(cpu_online_mask, cpu) Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 09/10] genirq/cpuhotplug: Ask migrate_one_irq() to migrate to a real online cpu Pingfan Liu
2022-08-22  2:15 ` [RFC 10/10] arm64: smp: Make __cpu_disable() parallel Pingfan Liu

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