From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
will@kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
Ada Couprie Diaz <ada.coupriediaz@arm.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Tangquan Zheng <zhengtangquan@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/8] dma-mapping: Support batch mode for dma_direct_sync_sg_for_*
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 19:12:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de876e61-42c5-414d-b439-2f9196c6c128@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yex5MKQkGtFr2zUcg4h0PtsFs2QVcE_NSfiyOn4qBzhQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 2026-01-06 6:41 pm, Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 3:50 AM Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 09:52:05AM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 9:09 AM Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 11:52:45AM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
>>>>> From: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of performing a flush per SG entry, issue all cache
>>>>> operations first and then flush once. This ultimately benefits
>>>>> __dma_sync_sg_for_cpu() and __dma_sync_sg_for_device().
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
>>>>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>>>>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>>>>> Cc: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
>>>>> Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
>>>>> Cc: Ada Couprie Diaz <ada.coupriediaz@arm.com>
>>>>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>>>>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
>>>>> Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
>>>>> Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>>>>> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
>>>>> Cc: Tangquan Zheng <zhengtangquan@oppo.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> kernel/dma/direct.c | 14 +++++++-------
>>>>> 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> <...>
>>>>
>>>>> - if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev)) {
>>>>> + if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev))
>>>>> arch_sync_dma_for_device(paddr, sg->length,
>>>>> dir);
>>>>> - arch_sync_dma_flush();
>>>>> - }
>>>>> }
>>>>> + if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev))
>>>>> + arch_sync_dma_flush();
>>>>
>>>> This patch should be squashed into the previous one. You introduced
>>>> arch_sync_dma_flush() there, and now you are placing it elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Hi Leon,
>>>
>>> The previous patch replaces all arch_sync_dma_for_* calls with
>>> arch_sync_dma_for_* plus arch_sync_dma_flush(), without any
>>> functional change. The subsequent patches then implement the
>>> actual batching. I feel this is a better approach for reviewing
>>> each change independently. Otherwise, the previous patch would
>>> be too large.
>>
>> Don't worry about it. Your patches are small enough.
>
> My hardware does not require a bounce buffer, but I am concerned that
> this patch may be incorrect for systems that do require one.
>
> Now it is:
>
> void dma_direct_sync_sg_for_cpu(struct device *dev,
> struct scatterlist *sgl, int nents, enum dma_data_direction dir)
> {
> struct scatterlist *sg;
> int i;
>
> for_each_sg(sgl, sg, nents, i) {
> phys_addr_t paddr = dma_to_phys(dev, sg_dma_address(sg));
>
> if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev))
> arch_sync_dma_for_cpu(paddr, sg->length, dir);
>
> swiotlb_sync_single_for_cpu(dev, paddr, sg->length, dir);
>
> if (dir == DMA_FROM_DEVICE)
> arch_dma_mark_clean(paddr, sg->length);
> }
>
> if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev)) {
> arch_sync_dma_flush();
> arch_sync_dma_for_cpu_all();
> }
> }
>
> Should we call swiotlb_sync_single_for_cpu() and
> arch_dma_mark_clean() after the flush to ensure the CPU sees the
> latest data and that the memcpy is correct? I mean:
Yes, this and the equivalents in the later patches are broken for all
the sync_for_cpu and unmap paths which may end up bouncing (beware some
of them get a bit fiddly) - any cache maintenance *must* be completed
before calling SWIOTLB. As for mark_clean, IIRC that was an IA-64 thing,
and appears to be entirely dead now.
Thanks,
Robin.
> void dma_direct_sync_sg_for_cpu(struct device *dev,
> struct scatterlist *sgl, int nents, enum dma_data_direction dir)
> {
> struct scatterlist *sg;
> int i;
>
> for_each_sg(sgl, sg, nents, i) {
> phys_addr_t paddr = dma_to_phys(dev, sg_dma_address(sg));
>
> if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev))
> arch_sync_dma_for_cpu(paddr, sg->length, dir);
> }
>
> if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev)) {
> arch_sync_dma_flush();
> arch_sync_dma_for_cpu_all();
> }
>
> for_each_sg(sgl, sg, nents, i) {
> phys_addr_t paddr = dma_to_phys(dev, sg_dma_address(sg));
>
> swiotlb_sync_single_for_cpu(dev, paddr, sg->length, dir);
>
> if (dir == DMA_FROM_DEVICE)
> arch_dma_mark_clean(paddr, sg->length);
> }
> }
>
> Could this be the same issue for dma_direct_unmap_sg()?
>
> Another option is to not support batched synchronization for the bounce
> buffer case, since it is rare. In that case, it could be:
>
> diff --git a/kernel/dma/direct.c b/kernel/dma/direct.c
> index 550a1a13148d..a4840f7e8722 100644
> --- a/kernel/dma/direct.c
> +++ b/kernel/dma/direct.c
> @@ -423,8 +423,11 @@ void dma_direct_sync_sg_for_cpu(struct device *dev,
> for_each_sg(sgl, sg, nents, i) {
> phys_addr_t paddr = dma_to_phys(dev, sg_dma_address(sg));
>
> - if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev))
> + if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev)) {
> arch_sync_dma_for_cpu(paddr, sg->length, dir);
> + if (unlikely(dev->dma_io_tlb_mem))
> + arch_sync_dma_flush();
> + }
>
> swiotlb_sync_single_for_cpu(dev, paddr, sg->length, dir);
>
> What’s your view on this, Leon?
>
> Thanks
> Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-06 19:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-26 22:52 [PATCH v2 0/8] dma-mapping: arm64: support batched cache sync Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] arm64: Provide dcache_by_myline_op_nosync helper Barry Song
2026-01-20 12:27 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-26 1:43 ` Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] arm64: Provide dcache_clean_poc_nosync helper Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] arm64: Provide dcache_inval_poc_nosync helper Barry Song
2026-01-20 12:33 ` Will Deacon
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] dma-mapping: Separate DMA sync issuing and completion waiting Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:07 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-27 21:45 ` Barry Song
2025-12-28 14:49 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-28 21:38 ` Barry Song
2025-12-29 14:40 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-31 14:43 ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-01-05 12:28 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] dma-mapping: Support batch mode for dma_direct_sync_sg_for_* Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:09 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-27 20:52 ` Barry Song
2025-12-28 14:50 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-06 18:41 ` Barry Song
2026-01-06 19:12 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2026-01-06 19:47 ` Barry Song
2026-01-07 7:54 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-07 13:16 ` Robin Murphy
2026-01-08 11:45 ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] dma-mapping: Support batch mode for dma_direct_{map,unmap}_sg Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:14 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 7/8] dma-iommu: Support DMA sync batch mode for IOVA link and unlink Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] dma-iommu: Support DMA sync batch mode for iommu_dma_sync_sg_for_{cpu, device} Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:16 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-27 20:59 ` Barry Song
2026-01-06 19:42 ` Robin Murphy
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